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Old 1st Jul 2020, 07:06
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Depending on how the figures turn out, they could be better off replacing the B767s with dedicated B737 freighters and running cargo only flights on certain routes in addition to pax B737 flights. This would give them a bit more flexibility as the B737 is easier to fill, frequency could be increased and destinations combined into a single run eg Hong Kong stops in Manila on the way back to Moresby. ANG is already a B737 operator and retraining B767 pilots wouldn't be a problem.

Obviously everything depends on future demand, if the B767 is full of freight on all its routes and can still make money with mostly empty seats in the cabin, they will probably be kept on.
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Old 1st Jul 2020, 07:33
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I thought the 737s were on the way out. Hopefully Air Nogot get through this without laying off any crew. They would probably be the only airline in the world to do so but hey, it ain't called the land of the unexpected for nothing.
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Old 1st Jul 2020, 09:47
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With the changed circumstances, the B737 would be a good fit as the Fokker hasn’t got the range for the longer routes and the B767 is too big. There will be plenty of attractive offers for leases available given the large number of 73s sitting on the ground. In 2-3 years time wide body flying may be profitable, possibly with the B787 instead.
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 04:39
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Hearing that the 737 Expat pilots have been told to either take indefinite leave without pay, or pay in lieu of termination notice.

Sounds like Chazwazza14 is correct.

Got to pay for a 40% holding in the other company somehow so as the Superannuation fund can get some of its money back. That's the trouble when a Government owns an airline, they say what to do and the Management can only say yes sir.




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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 07:48
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Pax numbers on the 767 have been very low, when I bailed out of PNG in mid May I was the only pax on the flight to Brisbane. I doubt they had much freight underneath as it climbed like a home sick angel, pitty it didnít keep going to drop me in heaven.....

Pretty weird flight, then to get met and greeted by police and troops to be escorted to a hotel for 14 days. A memorable experience, however very unpleasant!
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 11:47
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Little snippets coming out of PNG about PX reducing the expat numbers on the 737. Good luck guys.
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 23:15
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Old news to some but this is an excerpt from a Memo issued on 24/4/20

AMENDMENT TO PILOT CONDITIONS

5) LEAVE WITHOUT PAY

Only after all annual leave, SDO's and long service leave for all pilots on the applicable fleet and rank have been exhausted will pilots be placed onto Leave Without Pay.

Air Niugini acknowledges the B737 fleet is the most underutilized fleet at present and hence the most likely to have this occur.

Air Niugini will endeavor to advise you by email at least 14 days prior to you being rostered onto LWOP should be have to get to this outcome
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 11:30
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Originally Posted by chazwazza14 View Post
The 767 is just a freighter that’s got a few seats. They never flew full. Every time I went to SIN on the 767 there was about 30pax total, even down to BNE there was usually under 100 pax. It makes money from freight, so they will stick around over the 737.
Freight to SIN? Those Sings must sure love their buai.
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 11:46
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Haus of cards....
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Old 4th Jul 2020, 00:07
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Probably freight from Singapore as it a major cargo hub. Seafood or fruit and vegetables would be in demand for flights into SIN.

Local pilots from the B767 fleet might replace expats on the B737 once flying picks up again. The current pandemic is a good excuse for a major restructuring and getting rid of the foreigners.
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Old 4th Jul 2020, 05:02
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Originally Posted by lucille View Post
Freight to SIN? Those Sings must sure love their buai.
I believe itís more freight going the other way (In to PNG). But there is definitely palm sugar that heads out of POM.
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 23:42
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Latest seniority list has just been released and interesting to see that there have been no new employees since 11 Feb 2019.
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Old 13th Jul 2020, 10:40
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So the saga continues.

All back in court again.

The slip rule process is in progress. It is before the courts with the initial mention yesterday but as usual with PNG legal system deferred until August.

The legal wheels turn slowly.
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