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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 07:48
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Pax numbers on the 767 have been very low, when I bailed out of PNG in mid May I was the only pax on the flight to Brisbane. I doubt they had much freight underneath as it climbed like a home sick angel, pitty it didnít keep going to drop me in heaven.....

Pretty weird flight, then to get met and greeted by police and troops to be escorted to a hotel for 14 days. A memorable experience, however very unpleasant!
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 11:47
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Little snippets coming out of PNG about PX reducing the expat numbers on the 737. Good luck guys.
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 23:15
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Old news to some but this is an excerpt from a Memo issued on 24/4/20

AMENDMENT TO PILOT CONDITIONS

5) LEAVE WITHOUT PAY

Only after all annual leave, SDO's and long service leave for all pilots on the applicable fleet and rank have been exhausted will pilots be placed onto Leave Without Pay.

Air Niugini acknowledges the B737 fleet is the most underutilized fleet at present and hence the most likely to have this occur.

Air Niugini will endeavor to advise you by email at least 14 days prior to you being rostered onto LWOP should be have to get to this outcome
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 11:30
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Originally Posted by chazwazza14 View Post
The 767 is just a freighter that’s got a few seats. They never flew full. Every time I went to SIN on the 767 there was about 30pax total, even down to BNE there was usually under 100 pax. It makes money from freight, so they will stick around over the 737.
Freight to SIN? Those Sings must sure love their buai.
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 11:46
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Haus of cards....
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Old 4th Jul 2020, 00:07
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Probably freight from Singapore as it a major cargo hub. Seafood or fruit and vegetables would be in demand for flights into SIN.

Local pilots from the B767 fleet might replace expats on the B737 once flying picks up again. The current pandemic is a good excuse for a major restructuring and getting rid of the foreigners.
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Old 4th Jul 2020, 05:02
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Originally Posted by lucille View Post
Freight to SIN? Those Sings must sure love their buai.
I believe itís more freight going the other way (In to PNG). But there is definitely palm sugar that heads out of POM.
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 23:42
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Latest seniority list has just been released and interesting to see that there have been no new employees since 11 Feb 2019.
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Old 13th Jul 2020, 10:40
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So the saga continues.

All back in court again.

The slip rule process is in progress. It is before the courts with the initial mention yesterday but as usual with PNG legal system deferred until August.

The legal wheels turn slowly.
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Old 12th Oct 2020, 11:21
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Hahahahaha

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Old 13th Oct 2020, 03:34
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Let that sink in...

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Hahahahaha
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Old 22nd Mar 2021, 01:59
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I'm hearing the cull has begun.
6 on LWOP called in and told their services are no longer required. (Both expat and nationals) They were allowed to appeal but their appeals failed.
The 6 year pilot contract expires this month and most expat employment contracts are up for renewal at the same time. A number have already resigned and hearing quite a few will not be renewed.
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Old 22nd Mar 2021, 09:15
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Originally Posted by olderairhead View Post
I'm hearing the cull has begun.
6 on LWOP called in and told their services are no longer required. (Both expat and nationals) They were allowed to appeal but their appeals failed.
The 6 year pilot contract expires this month and most expat employment contracts are up for renewal at the same time. A number have already resigned and hearing quite a few will not be renewed.

Unfortunately, it was always inevitable.


The trap of PX is the ease of which one is able to crash along with it.


The shag factor involved in leaving the asylum knowing that sim, line checks, medicals & getting laid in the real world are failable events, adds far too much hesitation.



PX is just a job, flying redundant boxes, to the same places (serval times a day), and for mediocre money. It offers very limited career progression and the pay is woeful. Their fleet is antiquated, Dash8 time is worthless, the Fokker is too light to be considered reasonable Jet experience and the Boeing fleet has enough local sausage to do the job. But wait! the real experts always said ďPNG experience is the pinnacle of all aviation and that this experience alone is going to take you all over the world!Ē (Usually told to ones self & others repetitively to justify existence) In reality I bet your next HR recruiter will not even be able to point it out on a map! Itís only relevant for flying a 206, BN2 or Otter in PNG.


Now youíre trying for the same job at liquorland that every QF/QR/EK/EY/ANA Airbus & Boeing Captain and their dog is too, but itís ok you have PNG experience....


PX have kicked you out like an aeroclub meri the morning after, and you realize you didnít even get a tshirt!


And thatís the moment you realize you have f$&@d up.

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Old 23rd Mar 2021, 23:18
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Originally Posted by TBL Warrior View Post
Unfortunately, it was always inevitable.


The trap of PX is the ease of which one is able to crash along with it.


The shag factor involved in leaving the asylum knowing that sim, line checks, medicals & getting laid in the real world are failable events, adds far too much hesitation.



PX is just a job, flying redundant boxes, to the same places (serval times a day), and for mediocre money. It offers very limited career progression and the pay is woeful. Their fleet is antiquated, Dash8 time is worthless, the Fokker is too light to be considered reasonable Jet experience and the Boeing fleet has enough local sausage to do the job. But wait! the real experts always said ďPNG experience is the pinnacle of all aviation and that this experience alone is going to take you all over the world!Ē (Usually told to ones self & others repetitively to justify existence) In reality I bet your next HR recruiter will not even be able to point it out on a map! Itís only relevant for flying a 206, BN2 or Otter in PNG.


Now youíre trying for the same job at liquorland that every QF/QR/EK/EY/ANA Airbus & Boeing Captain and their dog is too, but itís ok you have PNG experience....


PX have kicked you out like an aeroclub meri the morning after, and you realize you didnít even get a tshirt!


And thatís the moment you realize you have f$&@d up.
Jeez TBL Warrior, that's a bit harsh I'm ex Pixie and I've been able to use my experience in ANG many times while I flushed the toilet... nah just kidding, I'm one who of those strange people who miss PNG. Miss the people and miss the flying. Never had so many laughs and so much fun flying in my life. Many good memories.
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Old 24th Mar 2021, 01:46
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I'm one who of those strange people who miss PNG. Miss the people and miss the flying. Never had so many laughs and so much fun flying in my life. Many good memories.
Likewise, and I never got out of G/A. Deeply regret the manner of my leaving the place (flat on my back being Medevacced) and the very short time I had there, but enjoyed everything else!
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Old 24th Mar 2021, 02:42
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Originally Posted by TBL Warrior View Post
Unfortunately, it was always inevitable.


The trap of PX is the ease of which one is able to crash along with it.


The shag factor involved in leaving the asylum knowing that sim, line checks, medicals & getting laid in the real world are failable events, adds far too much hesitation.



PX is just a job, flying redundant boxes, to the same places (serval times a day), and for mediocre money. It offers very limited career progression and the pay is woeful. Their fleet is antiquated, Dash8 time is worthless, the Fokker is too light to be considered reasonable Jet experience and the Boeing fleet has enough local sausage to do the job. But wait! the real experts always said ďPNG experience is the pinnacle of all aviation and that this experience alone is going to take you all over the world!Ē (Usually told to ones self & others repetitively to justify existence) In reality I bet your next HR recruiter will not even be able to point it out on a map! Itís only relevant for flying a 206, BN2 or Otter in PNG.


Now youíre trying for the same job at liquorland that every QF/QR/EK/EY/ANA Airbus & Boeing Captain and their dog is too, but itís ok you have PNG experience....


PX have kicked you out like an aeroclub meri the morning after, and you realize you didnít even get a tshirt!


And thatís the moment you realize you have f$&@d up.
Overall thatís pretty depressing lol. I guess before one realises it they are old, crippled and sucking pumpkin through a straw.
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Old 24th Mar 2021, 04:41
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Likewise.
I miss the F28 - the best flying I have ever known, the camaraderie that I have never experienced since, the unequalled flying, the country of contrasts, and the wonderful people.
Air Niugini set my family up, paid for a home and the kids private school education, paid for holidays all over the world with the 'credits' that we received every year and provided a great lifestyle in Cairns.
That flying experience in 'redundant boxes' has led me directly to a 737 Brisbane based command ever since I left Air Niugini.
What do I value most?
The friendships that can be restarted after years apart, and the stories that are intrinsic to PNG. Oh, the stories.
Stories that make normal people wince but make PNG survivors just smile and laugh!

Did I f$&@d up?
I don't think so.
Would I do it all over again?
In a heartbeat.
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Old 24th Mar 2021, 05:58
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Five years in POM were some of the most memorable years of my career. We were a team who did their utmost to keep the aircraft flying and look forward to the ANG reunions.
I look around the room and see all the old farts, myself included, and say, We ran an airline once, it is a great feeling as I spent five years there and was sad when I went finish.
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Old 24th Mar 2021, 07:41
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Originally Posted by ad-astra View Post
Air Niugini set my family up, paid for a home and the kids private school education, paid for holidays all over the world with the 'credits' that we received every year and provided a great lifestyle in Cairns.
Sorry Shaggs, All well truly in the rear view mirror.

The only thing that still exists from 20 years ago youíve mentioned is their archaic interline system.

1) Get pink form
1.1) No paper in printer to print form -sori tumus
1.2) Brings form from home supply that you are hoarding in case of emergency
2) Stop at every floor in ANG Haus for signatures
3) Find staff travel meri (working hours 11am-3pm lunch break 12-2)
4) Sori tumus system down
5) Repeat step 3 for several days
6) Staff travel meri logs into myid travel and makes reservation.
7) realizing if there is a f$&@k up outside of PNG whilst making connection there is no way in hell to organize a rebooking.
8)finally can go to Disney Land.

Iíve had faster HIV tests and results
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Old 24th Mar 2021, 09:29
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TBL, I understand everyone leaves PNG with different memories. That's life.
I hope you will eventually smile (and laugh) like the rest of us.
Yes my 13 years with ANG was a lot different to the next guy but we certainly had our fair share of frustrations and tribulations in our time as well. We did however make the very best of some difficult times.
SP helped! .....A lot. .......216 and 215 forever etched in my memory.
As a 60+ pilot now, I do however look very fondly at the ANG medical renewal process.
With the eye test at ANG Haus (bottom two lines were VLGYTPCE and DNBLUPTC, and the probing medical conducted by Jim Jacobi - "The trees the trees oh the beautiful trees" it was a refreshing change to the CASA medicals of Australia.
Take care.





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