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Old 18th May 2019, 10:16
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Originally Posted by balusnomore View Post
Winja,

best not get into a "pissing contest" as to who is better or not, leave that to to arguing about the Rugby......

BUT, to bring balance to the PNG/FIJI argument, I'll bring up TRIPELAPIDGEON (POST 1401) post....

"In addition LVO autoland on a non LVO runway by non qualified LVO crew in an airline not approved for LVO is not only tacitly approved by the fleet office at PX but actively encouraged."

The Fleet office consists of two, a Technical Manager who is also the Senior Check Captain (a Fijian) and the Fleet Manager (non Flying position an expat who spent many many years years flying 737's in Fiji). They were the management group presiding for both incidents being discussed...the fatal one at Chuck and the most recent "unapproved Auto land incident.

ANG was overseen by a series of CASA guys who were Fijian, some who have returned to Fiji. BTW Fiji Airways has just hired two extremely capable PX 737 Captains, who cut there teeth on places like Hagan

Wing, every nationality has their Aces, Great, Good, Average etc, and I never took it that Office Update was implying Fijians were any different to any one else...just that ANG was getting some pretty green pilots onto it jet fleet.
Not a pissing contest, just a bit of balance, it's not the Fijians fault, they applied for jobs, went through the recruitment process and were offered jobs. If you don't like what you see, take your concerns to the appropriate chain of command rather than shooting the pawns.
​​​​​It's been many years since I flew in PNG and following this thread sort of confirms that some things don't change. The bravado and probably, the risk taking more than likely remains. Only the aviation authority which was then dominated by Australians and Kiwis seems to have changed. I'm retired now after a long career that started in Australia, PNG, Africa and Europe, so could easily be accused of being an armchair pilot. And yes after Australia, PNG certainly is a shock, but realistically it isn't as challenging as those trying to justify their position or stance would like to make it out to be.
However you guys need to take a deep breath and work with your managers to rebuild your situation, put your airline back on the right path. That takes flixibility, a much easier and productive way than the battle that you seem to be in now. The court case seems to be history, time to change tact.
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Old 18th May 2019, 16:30
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Iím afraid it is all that bush pilot flying into places like Hagen with a get in at all costs mentality that has led to the current culture at PX.
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Old 19th May 2019, 00:47
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Balusnomore,

Thank you for response to my posting and your response above.
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Old 21st May 2019, 00:41
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However you guys need to take a deep breath and work with your managers to rebuild your situation, put your airline back on the right path.

It is a sad fact that since late 2014 the Managers have had no desire to build or rebuild any situation, that is despite one or two advisors trying to get the Management to the table with the Pilot representatives. This is the complete opposite to what the Pilots and their representatives have tried to do.

It was hoped that with new Management Leadership, changes would start regarding the interaction, but with the exception of one introductory meeting with the "masses" there has been absolutely no evidence of that.

ANG Management set out in 2014 to destroy the pilot representation, (which was as far from militant as you could get),... and they appear to have succeeded, and in doing so have totally destroyed pilot morale.
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Old 21st May 2019, 01:59
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Until ANG management realise that pilots arenít a renewable commodity anymore, particularly considering the current global shortage of experienced flight crews on the market, they will never ever find a sustainable long term solution to unravel the disaster that they have orchestrated.

I know that consumer confidence (particularly from the corporate clientele side of the business) is being severely eroded due continuous flight delays/cancellations and safety concerns. Lots of corporate clients who have used ANG for years are now using other carriers, even if they need to pay more and add time to their journeys.

If another airline started operating on the POM-SIN-POM route on a very regular basis offering competitive airfares, ANGís overall profit margins would crash overnight.

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Old 21st May 2019, 05:10
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Originally Posted by Duck Pilot View Post


If another airline started operating on the POM-SIN-POM route on a very regular basis offering competitive airfares, ANGís overall profit margins would crash overnight.
You mean instead of losing millions they would lose hundreds of millions!
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Old 26th May 2019, 04:52
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A change of PM this afternoon in POM with O'Neill resigning and handing over to Sir Julius Chan. When he previously served as PM Chan tended to influence what routes PX should fly, so don't be surprised if there are more changes to come.
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Old 26th May 2019, 05:09
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Is he back again ?? Talk about a revolving door.
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Old 26th May 2019, 07:38
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Fake news.
When the Prime Minister resigns the Deputy PM is in charge ie Abel.
Sir J & OíSteal can cook up whatever they want but without the Governor General approval Abel is PM.
Westminster System.... not village court
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Old 26th May 2019, 09:32
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Geeup,

Big statement you make...."the not village court" part that is!!!

Perhaps you should give Sir J Chan a quick phone and let him know that he is not the current (temp etc?) PM of PNG.

And while your at it, let the ABC and the other news outlets know that the current news feed out of PNG is fake news .
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Old 26th May 2019, 12:18
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Couldn’t get Sir J on the phone NCD, network issues etc.
However the Governor General answered and says he hasn’t sworn Sir J in so he ain’t the PM!
Constitution problems aren’t superseded by organic laws.
liklik sumtin sir J em gutpla man tru
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Old 26th May 2019, 21:13
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Old 26th May 2019, 21:18
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So with regards to the above who is sitting in the PMs chair?

Not Sir J.

ABC... EMTV... olgeta sumting... wrong / fake news

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Old 27th May 2019, 04:44
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Appointment of care-taker government, illegal: Former CJ | Loop PNG

If I was a betting man I would put my money on geeup.
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Old 27th May 2019, 07:00
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Loud Handle these blokes are blind ABC followers.

Last I heard the ABC were still trying to work how their prediction of Labor’s landslide federal election reporting were so wrong

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Old 30th May 2019, 07:26
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James Marape , new PNG Prime Minister
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Old 30th May 2019, 10:52
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geeup,

I'll give myself a deserved "told you so" .... your knowledge of PNG politics is indeed better than mine (together with your trust factor in the ABC more attuned).

Will be interesting to watch someone from Hela Province run PNG.

So it now 8 Prime Minsters since 1975, I think AUS has had 10 in the same time? (admittedly Rudd twice) ....Does that make PNG Government more stable than AUS??

Anyway...maybe a jet service to Hela Province will come about.
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Old 30th May 2019, 11:35
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Anyway...maybe a jet service to Hela Province will come about.
There's only one jet that needs to go there.............
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Old 31st May 2019, 14:33
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AirNiugini to replace Cathay Pacific on Cairns route.

https://www.cairnspost.com.au/news/c...1a0b4fb6a8f55b
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Old 31st May 2019, 20:49
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Originally Posted by krismiler View Post
AirNiugini to replace Cathay Pacific on Cairns route.

https://www.cairnspost.com.au/news/c...1a0b4fb6a8f55b
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