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Old 20th Apr 2019, 10:26
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Originally Posted by Duck Pilot View Post
Really defies all logic, but what would I know.
Not much Duck​​​ but never fear cos at least they now have Chop Chop ​​​​​.
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 12:20
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Another 200 series Dash added to LinkPNG

Engineers on their way back from Canada now after inspecting another 300 series Dash. First reports are all good.
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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 10:47
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olderairhead when you worked for LinkPNG was it 21 days ON / 21 days OFF or 28 days ON / 28 days OFF?
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 03:44
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Chop chop, when older chap was there it wasn’t Link PNG, it was Air Niugini.

To answer your question it was both, some guys there were on 21/21 tours and some on 28/28. And the ‘full time’ guys had the options of POM, CNS and BNE bases. Being based in Oz meant you reported for duty at home base. PX even provided the required firm seats to travel to and from POM.

No paxing in your own time, at your own cost.
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 08:41
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OK time to get back on track.

I have been informed tonight that the long awaited decision will be handed down tomorrow (25th) at 9.30am
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 12:47
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So lots of emails doing the rounds about THE DECISION being handed down in the am tomorrow.

To bring up to date...Air Niugini Management already lost this court case a few years ago...the Judge stated that ANG Management had under duress implemented the 2015 Pilot Contract...but ANG never being one to admit error appealed that ruling. It is the ANG Appeal result that is being given tomorrow at 930.

And if there is any Justice in PNG (as slow as it is!!!!) ANG will again be found to have used duress in the implementation of the 2015 contract,..... despite the huge amount of Kina dropped on their expensive international law firm and expensive Australian Queens Council.

Would imagine a loss for PX will hurt the bottom line by some millions, 4 years of each pilot making a claim for up to the 20% of the salary that was had taken through "duress".

Management losses since the original court ruling,

the CEO has left,
the Chairman of the Board has left
the GM Flight Ops is no longer the GMFO...

So leaves one or two (including PNG's best HR Manager) maybe feeling a little nervous about a court appearance tomorrow morning.

I know where I will be at 930 tomorrow!!!!!!!
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 21:47
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ANZAC Day ruling is very befitting & good luck lads.
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Old 25th Apr 2019, 00:04
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Thought I would be clever and look up the result.
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More bills not paid by the guvment?

Oh well will have to wait for the usual reliable sources updates.
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Old 25th Apr 2019, 00:26
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The decision is out and is not good news at all.

Those in attendance from their understanding believe the judges ruled the unions don’t have the authority to negotiate on the individual pilots regard.

They also ruled the unions have to pay all court costs including Poxies.

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Old 25th Apr 2019, 01:01
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Very sad to hear guys.

So not much point in being in a Union in PNG then, esp if there is no authority for the Union to negotiate on behalf of you.

NOW Even less reason for anyone to work for Air Nogat seeing that you will be on your lonesome in any industrial style negotiations.
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Old 25th Apr 2019, 02:55
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Update: see post 1373

Just received, link to a pdf of the decision. (give it time to load)

Court Decision

Last edited by olderairhead; 25th Apr 2019 at 03:29.
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Old 25th Apr 2019, 03:09
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I departed PX in July 2015.It was obvious back then that the PM (the very (dis-) honourable Peter O-steal,) had the justice system & police hierarchy in his back pocket.Brave move to proceed with the court challenge.It did look good,for a short time, but not in the long term, it now appears! Best thing that could happen now is “mass evacuation” back to the real world & leave PX to their own devices.It might be enough to push it over the edge.Good Luck to those still there.But the writing is well & truly “on the wall”!
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Old 25th Apr 2019, 03:27
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Old 25th Apr 2019, 05:24
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PNG justice dealt. So sorry guys but probably inevitable.
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Old 26th Apr 2019, 07:35
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The result isn’t surprising, good luck to the troops still standing over there.
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Old 26th Apr 2019, 08:18
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I guess this is the end of Air Niugini. It’s impossible to see anyone choosing to remain and without crew they can’t operate. All this bodes well for competitors and new entrants. Fingers crossed there will be plenty of jobs with decent T&Cs for all those experienced and well trained pilots from PX.
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Old 26th Apr 2019, 12:53
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Seems to be a flow of pilots from the neighbouring pacific island nations migrating to PNG, which I think may be their lifeline in terms pilot recruitment and retention for a while, particularly given the fact that some of the other island nations can train pilots.

Probably some creative motivation behind this fact that may actually be the grand plan.
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Old 26th Apr 2019, 16:04
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I agree with Duck Pilot. I hear there is no shortage of applications. Obviously PNG experience may be lost but even if PX pays zero they will come. In other parts of Asia (Pacific) people pay to fly.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 01:15
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Definitely won’t be the end of ANG but less motivation for the boys to stay.

I’m guessing it part of the final solution.

There must be close to 240 pilots at ANG. Broad spectrum of age & experience.

Load of Hevilift applications have been seen at ANG Haus. Guessing due to the lack of Kina and trouble paying salaries.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 01:49
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On thing’s for sure, it won’t be the same. During the Australian pilots strike in 1989 the airlines were able to recruit well qualified and experienced pilots even if they were the S word. ANG will be scraping the bottom of the barrel with a very long spoon.
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