Air Niugini's subsidiary - LINK PNG
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"Vehicle access passes (stickers) issued to staff for own private vehicles will be charged a fee of K20.00"
"The resignations continue. Another one gone today. 123 and counting".
Seeing that there would be around 150 cars needing parking permits, PX will raise about 3000 Kina.
The time to train a new hire, with endorsement costs, ground school, salary etc, would have to cost somewhere in a conservative area of 50 to 70K Aus dollars ran……plus loss of revenue because of flight cancellations due to the crew shortage.
Someone seem to have missed Business 101 if chasing a 20 kina parking fee is more important than nutting out some T&C’s that would keep pilots instead of having to throw cash at the training basket to replace them.
"The resignations continue. Another one gone today. 123 and counting".
Seeing that there would be around 150 cars needing parking permits, PX will raise about 3000 Kina.
The time to train a new hire, with endorsement costs, ground school, salary etc, would have to cost somewhere in a conservative area of 50 to 70K Aus dollars ran……plus loss of revenue because of flight cancellations due to the crew shortage.
Someone seem to have missed Business 101 if chasing a 20 kina parking fee is more important than nutting out some T&C’s that would keep pilots instead of having to throw cash at the training basket to replace them.
TBL Warrior don’t forget that will reduce the 767 fleet to 1 airframe.
Hard to stay current with 27 captains and 15 First Officers.
The amount of Reserve Days or Grey Days the lads are about to get would make a Qantas long haul pilot blush!
Won’t do much for their KPI however....
Hard to stay current with 27 captains and 15 First Officers.
The amount of Reserve Days or Grey Days the lads are about to get would make a Qantas long haul pilot blush!
Won’t do much for their KPI however....
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27 Captains on the 2 aircraft 767 fleet, well, thats nice work if you can get it.....am reliably told that there are 21 Fokker Captains on its 9 aircraft schedule. ouch!!!!
Now thats Airline Management 101...hahaha.
Now thats Airline Management 101...hahaha.
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The English language thing is not really irrelevant. The comment of its a PNG or Pacific thing is indicative of an acceptance of reduced standards from an operational sense and an overall reduction of governance and oversight from a societal point of view. This goes to the crux of the current industrial dispute where management thought they could make decrees and ride rough shod over the pilot body. There was a sham negotiation which the geniuses in ANH house classified as consultation.Is that a PNG THING ????
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Simple maths shows they cannot crew them and given that leavers outnumber arrivals it is obvious things are getting worse and worse.
Well done Simon Says, Sammy Toofar and Looneygona. You guys must be so proud of what you have achieved.
Without going on about the English language prowess,the acceptance of and 'dumbing down' of educational and professional standards is not acceptable. We all achieved to higher standards than what has become the norm. English is the primary language throughout Melanesia and it's not that hard to get right. As a learning experience walk into any public school in Melanesia and have a look at the resources they have to work with...it's sobering.
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The English language thing is not really irrelevant. The comment of its a PNG or Pacific thing is indicative of an acceptance of reduced standards from an operational sense and an overall reduction of governance and oversight from a societal point of view. This goes to the crux of the current industrial dispute where management thought they could make decrees and ride rough shod over the pilot body. There was a sham negotiation which the geniuses in ANH house classified as consultation.Is that a PNG THING ????
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Rumour is there is a new schedule out to replace schedule 125(A). And that it only utilises 3 or 4 Fokkers. February/March has always been the low time of year, so who knows how that will go.
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Surely no Airline Owner or Management team could be so inept or stupid to get to this position...could it be a plan for ANG to get rid of its Domestic Ops...give it to CG (who happens to also be owned by the GOVT in "around about way".
Leave ANG to do just International...leave the troublesome Domestic stuff to others.
A thought bubble yeah, but if the rumours are true about dropping down to a 3/4 aircraft schedule from a 9 aircraft schedule, while having a fleet of 14 Fokkers !!!!!
And if the owners, read the PNG Govt hasn't bothered to step in , surely some planing for this must have happended, otherwise the Management, Board of Directors and Post Holders would been flicked by now.
Airlines PNG have brand new ATR's, more coming, and Air Niugini has old Dashes and old Fokkers doing the Domestic runs. How does a private company get finance for new airframes and the Government owned Airline still flies outdated aircraft.
And does a drop down to 3/4 airframe schedule mean some of the guys will be furloughed, or is the schedule meant to meet the pilot numbers?
Was a freaking mess three + years ago, but from the sidelines this is now obviously worse and embarrassing to watch, sad for those still there.
Leave ANG to do just International...leave the troublesome Domestic stuff to others.
A thought bubble yeah, but if the rumours are true about dropping down to a 3/4 aircraft schedule from a 9 aircraft schedule, while having a fleet of 14 Fokkers !!!!!
And if the owners, read the PNG Govt hasn't bothered to step in , surely some planing for this must have happended, otherwise the Management, Board of Directors and Post Holders would been flicked by now.
Airlines PNG have brand new ATR's, more coming, and Air Niugini has old Dashes and old Fokkers doing the Domestic runs. How does a private company get finance for new airframes and the Government owned Airline still flies outdated aircraft.
And does a drop down to 3/4 airframe schedule mean some of the guys will be furloughed, or is the schedule meant to meet the pilot numbers?
Was a freaking mess three + years ago, but from the sidelines this is now obviously worse and embarrassing to watch, sad for those still there.
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It's PNG, there are wheels within wheels and hidden agendas everywhere. The predominate public perception is the reduced Fokker ops is due to pilot shortage and DH8/B737 are being used to cover previous Fokker sectors.
I'm hearing that a Fokker ground school started on monday for 3 direct entry captains and a company upgrade captain. However the 3 direct entries were no shows.
Must have been underwhelmed by the T&C's.
Must have been underwhelmed by the T&C's.
Some airlines know they will have a few no shows for a class of new joiners and stick in a couple of extras to allow for this. Looks like ANG couldn’t even fill an intake, let alone have a few reserves.
Next step, other than collapse, is no bring in short term contract pilots which will generate considerable resentment when their pay package gets known.
Next step, other than collapse, is no bring in short term contract pilots which will generate considerable resentment when their pay package gets known.
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I think PX is simply so impoverished that they have no choice (with the current management and lack of foresight and imagination) other than to carry on down the road to self destruction while hoping in the meantime some sort of sourcery will save them.
