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Hi ain't called toofar for nothing. Don't worry I am sure the management will have a big prayer session around the board table on ANH 4 or Rei's inner sanctum on ANH 3 and guarantee all that sail on the good ship PX will be safe for ever and a day . Perhaps they could also be granted their most sacred of wishes to get rid of those pesky racist expats.
It has been a while since I received any solid information but finally it is at hand.
In summary:
• The application to appeal PNGAPA being excluded from the original Ruling was made on 12th September.
• This application was successful.
• The Judge suggested that this appeal be heard in conjunction with Poxies appeal against the original Ruling.
• PNGAPA lawyers are to prepare and present an “Index to review book”. This is now being done with the support and assistance of Poxies laywers.
• This document should be filed before the actual hearing date.
• All parties shall return to court on 16th October 2017 at 9.30am for directions.
There is anticipation that the appeals will be heard sometime in December.
In summary:
• The application to appeal PNGAPA being excluded from the original Ruling was made on 12th September.
• This application was successful.
• The Judge suggested that this appeal be heard in conjunction with Poxies appeal against the original Ruling.
• PNGAPA lawyers are to prepare and present an “Index to review book”. This is now being done with the support and assistance of Poxies laywers.
• This document should be filed before the actual hearing date.
• All parties shall return to court on 16th October 2017 at 9.30am for directions.
There is anticipation that the appeals will be heard sometime in December.
It was a directions hearing and I am awaiting details. Will post as soon as I have them.
I am not one for rumours as I only post validated information but I did have a giggle at the one doing the rounds at the moment and that is that Wassi is returning.
Maybe Simon Says is on the way out?? Damage control??
I am not one for rumours as I only post validated information but I did have a giggle at the one doing the rounds at the moment and that is that Wassi is returning.
Maybe Simon Says is on the way out?? Damage control??
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So tours are being offered for those on the Fokker fleet. Although I’m yet to read the small print (and there will be a fair amount I bet) this new offering from above will be welcomed by many. With new contracts having to be signed......is this management starting to see the light or a “divide and conquer” move? Interesting times. Your views Olderairhead?
Tours are being offered under the 2015 contract conditions. Question is when Poxie loses the appeal will those on tour be bound by the 2015 contract or will the tours be removed as all conditions relate to the 2015 contract. I have been provided with a copy of the FSO and will post it when I convert it to Word.
They also advertised for Dash Captains on Seek and you don't necessarily need Command time or time in country. Terms are not disclosed but they would have to be 2015 conditions. These tour options have not been offered to current Dash crew.
https://www.seek.com.au/job/34644125?type=standout&userqueryid=7df2f5d018bf42b9a48006b2f c8bac77-3536884
They also advertised for Dash Captains on Seek and you don't necessarily need Command time or time in country. Terms are not disclosed but they would have to be 2015 conditions. These tour options have not been offered to current Dash crew.
https://www.seek.com.au/job/34644125?type=standout&userqueryid=7df2f5d018bf42b9a48006b2f c8bac77-3536884
The FSO
SUBJECT: Tours on the Fokker Fleet
Air Niugini is planning to implement Tours on the Fokker Fleet operation only. Tours will be open to citizen and expatriate crew operating on the Fokker Fleet.
Tours will be available in accordance with the following conditions:
• 2 year contract with the terms and conditions as per 2015 Pilot Contract,as applied through the 2017 Variations.
• The Employer at its discretion may offer tours to Pilots as allowed for under Part 122 Subpart E or an FRMS system.
• Clause 2.8 Secondary Employment of the 2015 Pilot Contract and Rule Part 122.53(b) Crew Member Responsibilities apply to Tour Pilots.
• Home base for a Tour Pilot shall be Port Moresby. The pilot may choose to domicile from an Air Niugini destination point. A ticket shall be provided to and from this selected point unless they are rostered to operate in our out from this point. Right to abode is the pilot's responsibility. Any other points chosen outside of the network point are at the pilots own time and cost.
• Air Niugini will offer Type "A" Tours only:
o Max of 28 days availability for Duty, followed by
o At least 21 days free of all duty.
• There will be a planned roster period of 21 On / 21 Off.
• KPI of 700 hours per annum OR ~88 hours per tour of duty can be expected.
• Hourly rate of K375/hour will be paid for flight hours above 88 hours on each tour
• The Annual Bonus rates for full time pilots will apply to Tour pilots
• Exceptions to the 2015 Pilot Contract Amended are as follows:
o Tour Pilots shall not accrue, nor shall they be entitled to take Annual Leave.
o Tour Pilots shall be entitled to seven (7) days Sick Leave per calendar year. Unused sick leave shall accumulate each year, up to a maximum of 14 days in 2 years. This may be cashed in after this period, per the contract terms, as the count shall be started again at the start of the next two years.
o Tour Pilots will be provided with accommodation whilst on tour of duty in Port Moresby on a shared apartment basis. For company overnights outside of Moresby accommodation and allowances will be provided.
o Tour pilots will receive meals whilst on operational duty, and an allowance of K100 per day while off duty during a tour in PNG.
o Whilst on tour the Employer shall be responsible for transportation of Tour Pilots to and from duty.
• No Reserve Days will be rostered for Tour Pilots whilst on a tour of duty.
SUBJECT: Tours on the Fokker Fleet
Air Niugini is planning to implement Tours on the Fokker Fleet operation only. Tours will be open to citizen and expatriate crew operating on the Fokker Fleet.
Tours will be available in accordance with the following conditions:
• 2 year contract with the terms and conditions as per 2015 Pilot Contract,as applied through the 2017 Variations.
• The Employer at its discretion may offer tours to Pilots as allowed for under Part 122 Subpart E or an FRMS system.
• Clause 2.8 Secondary Employment of the 2015 Pilot Contract and Rule Part 122.53(b) Crew Member Responsibilities apply to Tour Pilots.
• Home base for a Tour Pilot shall be Port Moresby. The pilot may choose to domicile from an Air Niugini destination point. A ticket shall be provided to and from this selected point unless they are rostered to operate in our out from this point. Right to abode is the pilot's responsibility. Any other points chosen outside of the network point are at the pilots own time and cost.
• Air Niugini will offer Type "A" Tours only:
o Max of 28 days availability for Duty, followed by
o At least 21 days free of all duty.
• There will be a planned roster period of 21 On / 21 Off.
• KPI of 700 hours per annum OR ~88 hours per tour of duty can be expected.
• Hourly rate of K375/hour will be paid for flight hours above 88 hours on each tour
• The Annual Bonus rates for full time pilots will apply to Tour pilots
• Exceptions to the 2015 Pilot Contract Amended are as follows:
o Tour Pilots shall not accrue, nor shall they be entitled to take Annual Leave.
o Tour Pilots shall be entitled to seven (7) days Sick Leave per calendar year. Unused sick leave shall accumulate each year, up to a maximum of 14 days in 2 years. This may be cashed in after this period, per the contract terms, as the count shall be started again at the start of the next two years.
o Tour Pilots will be provided with accommodation whilst on tour of duty in Port Moresby on a shared apartment basis. For company overnights outside of Moresby accommodation and allowances will be provided.
o Tour pilots will receive meals whilst on operational duty, and an allowance of K100 per day while off duty during a tour in PNG.
o Whilst on tour the Employer shall be responsible for transportation of Tour Pilots to and from duty.
• No Reserve Days will be rostered for Tour Pilots whilst on a tour of duty.
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PX Management "Absolutely HATE" Tours!!This development would confirm they are now ,officially, "Absolutely Desperate" to crew (Fokker) flights,it seems.Question is, does application for tours (and acceptance) imply endorsement of the reviled 2015 contract?
Poxie may be offering tours but still have not paid outstanding contributions to AON. Last payment was for June.
One member did pressure Poxie for payment and his is up to date but bugger everyone else.
Not legal Poxie.
One member did pressure Poxie for payment and his is up to date but bugger everyone else.
Not legal Poxie.
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Agreed Mangi fokker, this is just a delay tactic to keep pilots there for the xmas period, not paying Aon contributions, promises of tours, promotion ect all very desperate tactics.
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Well if I were there and not being paid my superannuation I would not be working until I got it.
About time to stand up to the stand over tactics, espectially when it is your money they are not paying, what crap employer takes money from your pay and doesnt put it in your bank.
Time to withdraw labour until it is paid.....another words a good reason to go on strike....geez you guys got screwed over on a contract, got screwed on a court case, now they are not paying super...what else are you going to put up with!!!
About time to stand up to the stand over tactics, espectially when it is your money they are not paying, what crap employer takes money from your pay and doesnt put it in your bank.
Time to withdraw labour until it is paid.....another words a good reason to go on strike....geez you guys got screwed over on a contract, got screwed on a court case, now they are not paying super...what else are you going to put up with!!!
The PM has an aeroplane crewed by PX pilot's, wrong!
The PM now has an aeroplane crewed by one fully employed pilot. The other, the Captain, is now a contract pilot. They have no backup. The backup they had refuses the B scale payment.
A lot more to this story but cannot be revealed at this stage.
Maybe when the PM changes his plans and has no-one to crew the flight can more be revealed.
The PM now has an aeroplane crewed by one fully employed pilot. The other, the Captain, is now a contract pilot. They have no backup. The backup they had refuses the B scale payment.
A lot more to this story but cannot be revealed at this stage.
Maybe when the PM changes his plans and has no-one to crew the flight can more be revealed.
The following communication from the PNGAPA lawyers was made available to me and is self explanatory.
Firstly, good news for all APA members. The good news is that when I last appeared before, His Honour Kassman J, the lawyers for Air Niugini informed me that they will not raise any objection or raise any issue with APA being included in the order at the hearing of the Supreme Court. In other words, our review application to include APA in the appeal will not be challenged.
Secondly, during the last directions hearing, Kassman J consolidated our Supreme Court Review (SCR) No. 87 of 2017 and Supreme Court Appeal (SCA) No. 83 of 2017 be consolidated and the court order and our Review Application be incorporated into the Appeal Book. Following theses orders, Kassman J directed parties to return to court on Monday 23 October 2017 to confirm compliance of the orders which we did and His Honour made further orders that the matter is listed for Chief Justice to allocated a Hearing date on 6th November 2017. On 6 November 2017 I will return to court and confirm the hearing date.
We hope to get the hearing date in the month of December 2017 to complete the matter. I will provide further brief to you after 6th November 2017 and confirm the hearing date.
Firstly, good news for all APA members. The good news is that when I last appeared before, His Honour Kassman J, the lawyers for Air Niugini informed me that they will not raise any objection or raise any issue with APA being included in the order at the hearing of the Supreme Court. In other words, our review application to include APA in the appeal will not be challenged.
Secondly, during the last directions hearing, Kassman J consolidated our Supreme Court Review (SCR) No. 87 of 2017 and Supreme Court Appeal (SCA) No. 83 of 2017 be consolidated and the court order and our Review Application be incorporated into the Appeal Book. Following theses orders, Kassman J directed parties to return to court on Monday 23 October 2017 to confirm compliance of the orders which we did and His Honour made further orders that the matter is listed for Chief Justice to allocated a Hearing date on 6th November 2017. On 6 November 2017 I will return to court and confirm the hearing date.
We hope to get the hearing date in the month of December 2017 to complete the matter. I will provide further brief to you after 6th November 2017 and confirm the hearing date.
Just received this update.
At the hearing on November 6 a court date was set being December 11.
One day has been set aside.
In the morning the the appeal by Poxie on the original decision will be heard and in the afternoon the "review" of the PNGAPA being excluded from the original decision will be heard.
Of note is that Poxies lawyers will not be contesting the PNGAPA "review" but supporting them as they believe the Judge made an error by excluding them.
It has now been 3 years since the forced introduction of the contract and after the hearing on the 11th a final decision will be handed down which I am led to believe cannot be contested.
Just a matter of waiting now for the final verdict.
At the hearing on November 6 a court date was set being December 11.
One day has been set aside.
In the morning the the appeal by Poxie on the original decision will be heard and in the afternoon the "review" of the PNGAPA being excluded from the original decision will be heard.
Of note is that Poxies lawyers will not be contesting the PNGAPA "review" but supporting them as they believe the Judge made an error by excluding them.
It has now been 3 years since the forced introduction of the contract and after the hearing on the 11th a final decision will be handed down which I am led to believe cannot be contested.
Just a matter of waiting now for the final verdict.
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Thanks for the update Olderairhead and I wish the pilots the best of luck, however unfortunately I bet my left nut you will be giving us updates on this sad state of affairs well into 2018.
The predicted exodus of pilots has commenced.
3 nationals and 1 expat have handed in their resignations today. All on the Fokker fleet. Word is this is just the start. More to come very very soon.
4th floor did not see this one coming and will be in for a big surprise very soon.
3 nationals and 1 expat have handed in their resignations today. All on the Fokker fleet. Word is this is just the start. More to come very very soon.
4th floor did not see this one coming and will be in for a big surprise very soon.
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This would be poxie exodus 2. A continuation of the horror movie. Produced by simple Simon , the Italian pretender and a ring in from Pakistan. Directed by the blue lagoon and Too far.