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Old 26th Feb 2017, 23:41
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If the Chinese government end up paying, it wouldn't be surprising if they made PX give up their MAX slot and go for a Chinese alternative. Their money usually comes with strings attached...
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Old 27th Feb 2017, 00:53
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Originally Posted by Loud Handle View Post
I wonder how they will finance the 737 Max orders? Roll up, roll up, knackered old aircraft seats for sale!
Over 2 years and 30 pages - my morbid curiosity is keen to know also !
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Old 27th Feb 2017, 01:05
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Originally Posted by Sleeper88 View Post
If the Chinese government end up paying, it wouldn't be surprising if they made PX give up their MAX slot and go for a Chinese alternative. Their money usually comes with strings attached...
Yup...Boeing is all over that contingency https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-...ant-1477687939
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Old 27th Feb 2017, 10:20
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo View Post
When's the 787 coming?
That order was CANX in compensation to Boeing pixie ordered 2+2x 737 max 8

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Old 27th Feb 2017, 11:04
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Any news about the PX Crew Bus being shot up by raskols in Wewak or is that fake news?
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Old 27th Feb 2017, 12:25
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Hope it wasn't Hugo's!
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Old 27th Feb 2017, 20:19
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Any news about the PX Crew Bus being shot up by raskols in Wewak or is that fake news?
I have been told that the crew bus drove over the logs used for the road block as did a following bus with passengers. Shots were fired and hit the passenger bus. No injuries. Security car was following behind when the mayhem occurred.

Just another day in Paradise.
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Old 28th Feb 2017, 20:31
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Foo has just written to all pilots to inform them that the 2015 has been in operation for 2 years and that for the majority of pilots their contracts will be expiring.

They have been informed that they will be doing one on one interviews commencing 1st March until 17th March.

It is being termed "an independent review".

T&C, who knows. Nothing has been provided.

No negotiating with the PNGAPA.

Not waiting for the court decision.

No guarantee of continued employment.

TANGFU.
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Old 1st Mar 2017, 08:19
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Originally Posted by olderairhead View Post
Foo has just written to all pilots to inform them that the 2015 has been in operation for 2 years and that for the majority of pilots their contracts will be expiring.

They have been informed that they will be doing one on one interviews commencing 1st March until 17th March.

It is being termed "an independent review".

T&C, who knows. Nothing has been provided.

No negotiating with the PNGAPA.

Not waiting for the court decision.

No guarantee of continued employment.

TANGFU.
Why don't all the expats just quit?
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Old 1st Mar 2017, 08:56
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Chris2303, over 100 have done just that! (Thats just under 50% of total pilot number) over the past 2 yrs.I expect the remainder are awaiting the court case outcome,due very soon, to determine their next move.
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Old 4th Mar 2017, 22:52
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Just been informed that there is a very strong rumour doing the rounds of PX that a shake up of the 4th floor is very imminent.

Another is that a F100 is about to be sold.

Got to pay for the fit out of Stulag Luft Towers somehow.
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Old 5th Mar 2017, 08:01
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So they do actually own one then? I believe most of the fleet is leased not sure of the number of owned aircraft. This show is getting interesting. As I predicted a couple of years ago it looks like ang will return to what is was 20 years ago. A few tired fokker jets serving main regional ports if they get in the air at all. And international services cut to a minimum. But with very few expat pilots so the dream of having png national crew will be realised, but in a company about half the size it could have been. And with the economy constrained by the lack of reliable air services.
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Old 5th Mar 2017, 19:48
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Originally Posted by saabsforever View Post
And international services cut to a minimum.
I wonder if that is why QF are flying their own equipment to POM - they can see the codeshare collapsing soon.

Come to think of it, if QF are aware of the above mentioned problems why are they still codesharing?
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Old 9th Mar 2017, 01:48
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Yes pollies will be happy no nasty expats

Interesting that other" national carriers" in other countries have gone down the same road with surprise surprise very little success

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Old 11th Mar 2017, 00:45
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Originally Posted by saabsforever View Post
This show is getting interesting.
Have they achieved the ambitious expat pilot target was announced back in 2014? I think it was 5%!
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Old 11th Mar 2017, 07:32
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Previous numbers 1.1.14:

Nationals 134 Expats 136

Current numbers:

Nationals 110 Expats 55

Was 50% now 33% (Of total)

Expats 60% reduction from 1.1.14
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Old 11th Mar 2017, 09:46
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a gross reduction of over 100 pilots, must be running like a well oiled machine.
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Old 11th Mar 2017, 11:20
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...getting sad to log in to state what was obviously inevitable some time ago.

History: In late 2014 the pilot group gets told by its management that it is in severe financial stress, pays lip service to the Pilots elected group, then presents an absolute crap conditions contract as individual contracts as a a take it or leave it item. Immediately pilot start leaving.

Forward to December 2015, the PNG GOVT gets given a 20 Mill KINA dividend from PX, and again in December 2016, the PNG GOVT gets given another 20 Mill KINA dividend.

Forward to 2017, the electricity gets turned off at Parliament House, the Courts, and many other Government buildings due to non payment of bills, PNG fails to pay its United Nations commitment, and the Press headline is that AUS AID will need to pay for security at APEC in 2018.

Guessing PX has no wriggle room re contract improvement with the contract due in 9 days time, a contract that none of the two pilots Unions (Nationals and remaining Expats) have been asked to consult with or provide input to .

So, PX target: 5% expats, MEH...try...EXPAT target: 0% expats.








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Old 12th Mar 2017, 21:30
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Following on from Foo's one on one interview invitation the pilot's have heeded the advice of their lawyer not to attend while the court case is in progress.

On another issue Link still do not have a Manager Flight Standards since the departure of the previous one in November last year. So far their recruitment for a replacement has failed.

They even asked CASA Oz during the recent ramp checks in Cairns if they knew of anyone who wanted a job. Their recent ad campaign was a total failure so may as well utilise CASA, at least it was free!
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Old 14th Mar 2017, 00:35
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With reference to Foo's letter the consultant employed to speak to the pilots about their contracts has left the building.

He is quoted as saying:

I’m going home this morning because I cannot see any point to sitting in the office as no one has or is coming to see me.

The union & their lawyer has told people not to see me.

The pilot situation I think is unrecoverable.


And to top that Link has emailed all Captains to tell them that they are basically training Captains but without compensation.

An excerpt:

In accordance with the requirements in CAR 61.31, Link has decided to designate all captains who have been checked to line as a captain for at least 12 months as captains who can provide command practice, and certify the candidate’s training record that command practice time has been completed.

Who needs training Captains!
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