Arrest over cabin baggage dispute
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Arrest over cabin baggage dispute
At last, the issue is being taken seriously. Well done Captain.
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Well past time that some action was taken in regard to oversize cabin baggage.
Why are the frames supplied to measure any cabin baggage? I have never seen one used yet, even with what is obviously oversize luggage going onboard as hand luggage.
If it wont fit in the frame then there can be no argument.
Why are the frames supplied to measure any cabin baggage? I have never seen one used yet, even with what is obviously oversize luggage going onboard as hand luggage.
If it wont fit in the frame then there can be no argument.
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Great to see oversize cabin baggage getting the once over.
Next has to be restricting the reclining of the seat in front so we all can have a comfortable ride in the limited space givern to us. Just spent a long time with someones head up my nose. There seems to be no form of courtesy or care for your fellow pax and the flight attendants seem to rush past as you delecately try to escape for a toilet break. This is a safety issue and the heated discussions that arise will i'm sure lead to skyrage.
I'ts not on trying to turn your economy seat into a business class bed.
Next has to be restricting the reclining of the seat in front so we all can have a comfortable ride in the limited space givern to us. Just spent a long time with someones head up my nose. There seems to be no form of courtesy or care for your fellow pax and the flight attendants seem to rush past as you delecately try to escape for a toilet break. This is a safety issue and the heated discussions that arise will i'm sure lead to skyrage.
I'ts not on trying to turn your economy seat into a business class bed.
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Gggrrrrr...... Cabin baggage!!! I hate it! And I applaud JQ et al for NOW trying to police it, BUT..... It is of their own making! The LCC's were the one who started to charge for checking in a bag, and the pax wished up to it. The pax then take advantage of it, and the airline gets upset. Now the pax get upset that the airline is belatedly enforcing the rules.
So.... Where was CASA in all of this? Surely they have seen pax and their carry on bags. I am sure that they have seen the airlines abuse the morality of travel...... But why haven't CASA actually stepped in prior to this, as either a safety issue, or compliance with AoC conditions?( should there actually be any)
So.... Where was CASA in all of this? Surely they have seen pax and their carry on bags. I am sure that they have seen the airlines abuse the morality of travel...... But why haven't CASA actually stepped in prior to this, as either a safety issue, or compliance with AoC conditions?( should there actually be any)
Am with deadcut.
Having travelled for years and the seat pitch has never really varied.
What has changed, is the discipline and attitude of the modern day airline passenger. Reclining, at non meal times, was never an issue, because people had the decency not to do it until the trays were cleared. If you want more space then, buy it.
I hope my thoughts have not "givern" anyone the sh*ts.
Having travelled for years and the seat pitch has never really varied.
What has changed, is the discipline and attitude of the modern day airline passenger. Reclining, at non meal times, was never an issue, because people had the decency not to do it until the trays were cleared. If you want more space then, buy it.
I hope my thoughts have not "givern" anyone the sh*ts.
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Also with deadcut. I've had some not too good experiences in economy, and on the other side of the coin, a few good ones.
But if I definitely want something better I know I must pay more.
Simple really.
But if I definitely want something better I know I must pay more.
Simple really.
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About time. Was on a Rat flight where this piece got on with a bag. took two ringers to lift it, she couldn't, then it didn't fit in the bin. She stood there wacking it to try and fit in. in the end the trolley dolley relocated it down the front. last time on DJ they made the mistake of sending me a survey. main reply are you running a pax or freight flight.
Got on the dash out of Horn Island behind one fat cow who attempted to take 5 bags into the cabin as the second last person to board. They should have left it on the ramp or put on next flight.
AN used to have a circular slide for dumping oversized downstairs. Bloody good idea.
Got on the dash out of Horn Island behind one fat cow who attempted to take 5 bags into the cabin as the second last person to board. They should have left it on the ramp or put on next flight.
AN used to have a circular slide for dumping oversized downstairs. Bloody good idea.
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I'm sorry but I think that is a rather arrogant attitude. Were I to fly BNE/SYD on QF this coming Saturday (for example), I have a choice of Red-e-deal ranging from $146 to $295, FlexiSaver at $329 or Fully Flexible at $595.
In other words I could end up IN THE SAME SEAT in economy for either $146 or $595, It's a no brainer.
To go business class I would have to pay between $699 and $999. A thousand dollars for a flight that lasts a bit more than an hour? Great if you are one of those fortunate enough to have your company pay for it but when you pay for all your travel yourself, not so much fun.
I realise those are QF fares and not JQ and conditions are different but the point I'm trying to make is that even if you purchase a more expensive seat you could still be sitting with someone who has paid a fraction of what you paid.
Plus the subject was cabin baggage. Last time I flew there were just as many dickheads in business who were trying to put their bags, esky, golf clubs and and kitchen sink up there. Or the other favourite, fill up the front luggage bays in economy so the precious darlings don't have to drag their bespoke trolleys all the way down the back. Too bad for those actually allocated row 6.
It's become a very selfish attitude on the part of a lot of people who think their time is too important to wait 10 to 15 minutes at a carousel but instead it's "look at me, look at me - I'm someone indispensable to the running of the country/economy and I just have to get the first cab off the rank"!
I'm sorry but I think that is a rather arrogant attitude. Were I to fly BNE/SYD on QF this coming Saturday (for example), I have a choice of Red-e-deal ranging from $146 to $295, FlexiSaver at $329 or Fully Flexible at $595.
In other words I could end up IN THE SAME SEAT in economy for either $146 or $595, It's a no brainer.
To go business class I would have to pay between $699 and $999. A thousand dollars for a flight that lasts a bit more than an hour? Great if you are one of those fortunate enough to have your company pay for it but when you pay for all your travel yourself, not so much fun.
I realise those are QF fares and not JQ and conditions are different but the point I'm trying to make is that even if you purchase a more expensive seat you could still be sitting with someone who has paid a fraction of what you paid.
Plus the subject was cabin baggage. Last time I flew there were just as many dickheads in business who were trying to put their bags, esky, golf clubs and and kitchen sink up there. Or the other favourite, fill up the front luggage bays in economy so the precious darlings don't have to drag their bespoke trolleys all the way down the back. Too bad for those actually allocated row 6.
It's become a very selfish attitude on the part of a lot of people who think their time is too important to wait 10 to 15 minutes at a carousel but instead it's "look at me, look at me - I'm someone indispensable to the running of the country/economy and I just have to get the first cab off the rank"!
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Kiwithrottlejockey, install those on any aeroplane I'm in command of and I'll have you arrested for interfering with the operation of an aircraft.
Back to the matter at hand: It seems that initially at least, the system works. Bag sizes and carry-on limits exist for a reason. The fact is, however, that punitive checked luggage fees encourage some passengers to try to game the system. That behaviour is expected from a small fraction of the public. Attention should be paid to airline policies that promote it.
Eventually airlines will force the hands of the regulators, as they do in most things. Minimum seat width and pitch will likely have to be mandated...to at least the 95th percentile. Perhaps a rebate scheme could be employed for people outside of that standard. Its only fair, after all.
I would like to see 476mm/19" width and 34" pitch for long haul and perhaps 32" for short haul under three hours. 30" maybe if recline mechanisms are locked out*
{*I am a fairly tall bloke, and dislike being assaulted by an insistent recliner. Usually a whispered promise of retributive violence does the trick. Why should it have to come to that? Garrotte just one person and you never hear the end of it.
}
If such standards were universal then fares would drift up slightly to compensate and air travel would again be something to enjoy rather than dread. Or at least tolerate in semi-comfort.
The missing two rows of seats would then instantly increase the available carry-on space to what it was when the aeroplane was designed, magically fixing the problems mentioned above.
Eventually airlines will force the hands of the regulators, as they do in most things. Minimum seat width and pitch will likely have to be mandated...to at least the 95th percentile. Perhaps a rebate scheme could be employed for people outside of that standard. Its only fair, after all.
I would like to see 476mm/19" width and 34" pitch for long haul and perhaps 32" for short haul under three hours. 30" maybe if recline mechanisms are locked out*
{*I am a fairly tall bloke, and dislike being assaulted by an insistent recliner. Usually a whispered promise of retributive violence does the trick. Why should it have to come to that? Garrotte just one person and you never hear the end of it.
}If such standards were universal then fares would drift up slightly to compensate and air travel would again be something to enjoy rather than dread. Or at least tolerate in semi-comfort.
The missing two rows of seats would then instantly increase the available carry-on space to what it was when the aeroplane was designed, magically fixing the problems mentioned above.