Qantas Short Haul EBA 2014
correct...no penalty, no sick leave used, no certificate required. There is a clause somewhere in the EBA that says the company 'may' require a certificate for R, AV, BL days, but they have to provide notice or something. Ive never been asked for one.
There are some crew known to scheduling who go sick on every reserve. Just treat it as an additional 3 days off.
With the company having more access to AV days now, i have no doubt that sickness on reserves will skyrocket. Since the agreed coverage has increased, Reserves will now go further up the rotation. After a short period, people will get fed up of getting pinged every AV day, and R coverage will be even less than it was before.
The only positive in this EBA is the inclusion of parts of the integration agreement.
There are some crew known to scheduling who go sick on every reserve. Just treat it as an additional 3 days off.
With the company having more access to AV days now, i have no doubt that sickness on reserves will skyrocket. Since the agreed coverage has increased, Reserves will now go further up the rotation. After a short period, people will get fed up of getting pinged every AV day, and R coverage will be even less than it was before.
The only positive in this EBA is the inclusion of parts of the integration agreement.
Good idea, plan lots of Industrial Action in an ailing lossmaking airline. Disrupt your passengers who pay your salaries, airline looses even more money.
Give more work to LOC rivals, airline gets smaller, less jobs. Seems a good plan.
Give more work to LOC rivals, airline gets smaller, less jobs. Seems a good plan.
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The yes vote was around 70%, meaning that a majority were happy with the agreement. I doubt you'll see widescale sick-ins.
Id guess the majority went for a cash grab, rather than reading the changes to the agreement.....
From discussions with a lot of Yes voters, they weren't aware of what the changes to Reserves and AV's were, and how they would impact their rostering.
It will depend on the flying/base, but MEL and SYD R sickness will definitely increase.
cessnapete, your understanding of the Qantas business position is as thorough as your spelling.
From discussions with a lot of Yes voters, they weren't aware of what the changes to Reserves and AV's were, and how they would impact their rostering.
It will depend on the flying/base, but MEL and SYD R sickness will definitely increase.
cessnapete, your understanding of the Qantas business position is as thorough as your spelling.
It seems from the outside that Q deliberately delays negotiations until well after the current EBA has expired. Then, after a significant period of no negotiation due to "other negotiations", Q's first offer is an obvious reject. This leads to the next offer which, invariably, contains a clause stating there will be no back pay up to the date of the new agreement being settled
Anyway that was one of the main reasons I decided to leave (and haven't looked back since).
Cloudsurfing, the effect of the reserve changes is that one more rank on reserve per day across the country, so the practical effect of that will be negligible.
And if the ones who don't like it call in sick, then others will pick up the trips in their place and get the $, that the beauty of the SH award
And if the ones who don't like it call in sick, then others will pick up the trips in their place and get the $, that the beauty of the SH award
The yes vote was around 70%, meaning that a majority were happy with the agreement.
This entire process was an absolute disgrace from the outset. A completely wasted opportunity by a "leadership" team (devoid of real Leadership) to engage with their employees and genuinely negotiate real outcomes.
In the end I had to decide if voting NO would result in a significantly better deal.
I won't go sick on RES's. I will use the new flexibility clause though to "negotiate" double time for my services when crewing are desperate and sms'ing me on a day off to help out.
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Dr Dre,
I stand to be corrected but from my reading it will be an extra reserve in each rank, in each Base per day. i.e. from 3 on reserve every day to 4.
That is a big increase, 33%.
First world problem and all, but we just gave it away for nothing. Just like I'll be trying to do with my Reserves. Anyone?
I stand to be corrected but from my reading it will be an extra reserve in each rank, in each Base per day. i.e. from 3 on reserve every day to 4.
That is a big increase, 33%.
First world problem and all, but we just gave it away for nothing. Just like I'll be trying to do with my Reserves. Anyone?
Brutus,
The new agreement calls for a reserve ratio of 1:18
Divide that into the number of shorthaul pilots, and this equates to the total number of reserves being 1 or 2 higher than the fixed number of reserves now per rank. And with the ADL base taking up a reserve per day this new ratio will have very little noticeable effect on overall reserve numbers and how high up the position numbers they'll go.
The new agreement calls for a reserve ratio of 1:18
Divide that into the number of shorthaul pilots, and this equates to the total number of reserves being 1 or 2 higher than the fixed number of reserves now per rank. And with the ADL base taking up a reserve per day this new ratio will have very little noticeable effect on overall reserve numbers and how high up the position numbers they'll go.
Just the mainline 737's
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The following is a cut and paste from the FAQs.
Agreed daily reserve coverage of up to 1:18 based on the total number of line pilots across all B737 bases (including pilots on leave but excluding pilots on LWOP). This mechanism will increase the total daily coverage across all bases from an agreed fixed number of 12 per Category to 16 per category based on current numbers.
An increase of 33%
For nothing.
Agreed daily reserve coverage of up to 1:18 based on the total number of line pilots across all B737 bases (including pilots on leave but excluding pilots on LWOP). This mechanism will increase the total daily coverage across all bases from an agreed fixed number of 12 per Category to 16 per category based on current numbers.
An increase of 33%
For nothing.
An increase of 33%
For nothing.
For nothing.
In the current EBA there is a fixed number of 12 reserves total in each rank in the bases active when the EBA was written (Syd, Mel, Bne)
Since then, Per base has I believe 2 per day, and Adl should have 1 =15, so going up one per day across the country, not 33% overall
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