What's up with VA lately
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abandoning ship
VA's CEO has made it very clear he wants a high turn over of crew. Morale is at the lowest it has ever been, and the company is not interested in fixing it. Why are flights being canned? crewing... crew are going sick, they are going fatigued, they are quitting at a higher rate than ever before.
I wonder if they will even publish the People Survey results, it will be that bad.
I wonder if they will even publish the People Survey results, it will be that bad.
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VA must be hurting somewhat
Is VA giving up the fight with Qantas out of BNE on the Perth service ? It seems to be the case as 3 out of 4 direct flights from BNE. are now B737 and nearly all PER-BNE flights are B737 and the only A330 flight to Perth is late in the evening , not much good to business men!!
VA's facebook page has a lot of very disgruntled passenger comments about the down grading of service from a wide body to a narrow body. This is particularly the case in Business Class. The poor old B737 is not a patch on the A330 for passenger comfort and when one considers that QF have around 5 flights/day with wide body aircraft why would anyone bother to fly VA on a narrow body when there is the option of a wide body with QF.
VA's response on the facebook page to Post section is that the downgrade is due to demand so it seems that VA is suffering a bit.
It's quite a shame if that's the case as it's a great Airline to fly with but when one looks at the options it's not real good for VA.
If you want to go to Perth on a wide body with VA during the day then one has to go via Sydney or Melbourne. Some might say its a bit of a whinge but when one is paying good money to fly Business Class one should expect better service that is available on a wide body aircraft. Of course the other option is to fly QF but that would be a drastic move on my part in my opinion.
VA's facebook page has a lot of very disgruntled passenger comments about the down grading of service from a wide body to a narrow body. This is particularly the case in Business Class. The poor old B737 is not a patch on the A330 for passenger comfort and when one considers that QF have around 5 flights/day with wide body aircraft why would anyone bother to fly VA on a narrow body when there is the option of a wide body with QF.
VA's response on the facebook page to Post section is that the downgrade is due to demand so it seems that VA is suffering a bit.
It's quite a shame if that's the case as it's a great Airline to fly with but when one looks at the options it's not real good for VA.
If you want to go to Perth on a wide body with VA during the day then one has to go via Sydney or Melbourne. Some might say its a bit of a whinge but when one is paying good money to fly Business Class one should expect better service that is available on a wide body aircraft. Of course the other option is to fly QF but that would be a drastic move on my part in my opinion.
the downgrade is due to demand so it seems that VA is suffering a bit.
Hopefully this is a sign that there is a bit of common sense returning to both airlines after the stupid capacity wars of the past 18 months.
The late Qantas flight BNE-PER (ironically numbered QF767) is now operated by a 737 on a number of days, midweek included. Qantas is definitely not an exclusive wide body operator on the route either anymore.
With the Sky Interior set-up used almost exclusively on this route, the product offering isn't too bad when compared with the 330.
With the Sky Interior set-up used almost exclusively on this route, the product offering isn't too bad when compared with the 330.
What do you do, run it empty because the opposition is? JQ pulled out because of poor loads....we have a massive overcapacity in the market in Australia on some routes that aren't sustainable - look at the bottom line of all the operators in Australia, the only winner currently is the public.
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Also, don't forget on VAs side that both the 2 original A330s are out, aren't they? One already gone, the other in Tulla for off-lease work did I hear? That would affect their ability to spread the A330s around to the less profitable routes even if they wanted to...
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These things happen. Didn't QF make passengers sleep on the floor in LAX last week due to a tech fault and a 24 hour delay. That's on top of the watergate flight the month earlier.
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Nice attempt at deflection, but some of us are here as the title is.. "What's up with VA lately".
Why not start your own thread if you want to promote another agenda.
Nice attempt at deflection, but some of us are here as the title is.. "What's up with VA lately".
Why not start your own thread if you want to promote another agenda.
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That may well be the case but it does not change the fact that the A330 is far better than the B737 for passenger comfort. I am not disputing that the B737 or indeed the A320 are both great aeroplanes and fulfill an important role in Airlines but one can hardly compare them with an A330 that is fitted with new style seats.
If you were paying the same dollar to fly to Perth in Business Class which one would you choose given the opportunity???
I very much doubt it would be the B737.
As was mentioned earlier perhaps part of the reason for downgrading the flights to a B737 is the fact that one or two of the older leased A330's are no longer in service and VA no longer have the capacity to use an A330.
Maybe the A330 will come back more regularly on this route when VA get their latest new A330's.
Until then if I want to fly to Perth with VA during the day it's via Sydney which I am doing in Oct.
It's my choice !!
If you were paying the same dollar to fly to Perth in Business Class which one would you choose given the opportunity???
I very much doubt it would be the B737.
As was mentioned earlier perhaps part of the reason for downgrading the flights to a B737 is the fact that one or two of the older leased A330's are no longer in service and VA no longer have the capacity to use an A330.
Maybe the A330 will come back more regularly on this route when VA get their latest new A330's.
Until then if I want to fly to Perth with VA during the day it's via Sydney which I am doing in Oct.
It's my choice !!
Amazing how spoilt the public are in Australia - over in the US you are flat out to find anyone doing transcon's in widebodies anymore, all with no meals as well, least the airlines in the USA are making money, for now at least
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There won't be any more A 330's added, Rod. The fleet will stay at 6, where it is now. However, there may, (or may not) be an interesting development around Friday next.....
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VA doesn't have an electronic means of collecting park brake release times. It is up to the crew to relay their times. 99% of the time the crew say "off blocks on time". It's not an accurate system in a LCC environment.
Blueback you seem to be THE authority on what happens at Virgin Australia.
Not!
From my experience crews advise an accurate OBT.
In any case your accurate off blocks times that you are so concerned about can just as easily be corrupted by releasing that pesky park brake at the scheduled departure time with the ACARS celebrating another on time departure.
How about we keep to the facts.
Not!
From my experience crews advise an accurate OBT.
In any case your accurate off blocks times that you are so concerned about can just as easily be corrupted by releasing that pesky park brake at the scheduled departure time with the ACARS celebrating another on time departure.
How about we keep to the facts.
