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As Jet A One has stated rosters are designed to suit the company's requirements .
I think some of you guys should step back and think about the guys who are losing their jobs.
Be thankful you still have a job - a job that pays pretty well .
Don't whinge about having to leave the terminal to work in SAM . I nearly choked on my coffee when I read that one .
I'm no company man but a realist - do you job and do it well and remember your brothers who have just been shown the front door .
The horse has bolted and it started when Avalon started and 245 was winding down ....
Where were the terminal and base brothers then !!!
I think some of you guys should step back and think about the guys who are losing their jobs.
Be thankful you still have a job - a job that pays pretty well .
Don't whinge about having to leave the terminal to work in SAM . I nearly choked on my coffee when I read that one .
I'm no company man but a realist - do you job and do it well and remember your brothers who have just been shown the front door .
The horse has bolted and it started when Avalon started and 245 was winding down ....
Where were the terminal and base brothers then !!!
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I think most blokes are willing to put in a fight and make sacrifices when it comes to things that will make a difference. If going to the 8hr is all the ammo we've got, it must be time to put the pistol in its holster for a while. I knew to be worried when The Masked Goat Rider came out of retirement. There is nothing that is going to get anyone in the detention centre their jobs back. Most of them know it and are only sitting out the 12 weeks to get the shift penalties. Harsh but true and we all know it.
I disagree that an employee driven return to 8 hour roster would be an "own goal" and that the company "have wanted an 8 hour roster for years".
As far as I am aware, the company can put anyone on an 8 roster at any time with the appropriate notice given. It is only extended hours rosters that require agreement from the employees. Thus, if the company have been wanting an 8 hour roster for years, why haven't they just done it already?
As far as I am aware, the company can put anyone on an 8 roster at any time with the appropriate notice given. It is only extended hours rosters that require agreement from the employees. Thus, if the company have been wanting an 8 hour roster for years, why haven't they just done it already?
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Correct Talkwrench. The company can do it any time and if it would work, they would have done it already because there is no inbuilt overtime and is cheaper.
I don't think you are so cool Banana head. Always spreading rubbish on here and it is always pro company. I don't know if you are posting from the crisis centre or not but maybe you should do some research before you sprout your crap.
Returned to 8 hour in Servicing 15 years ago fighting for a better 12 hour roster. They got it.
Returned to 8 hour in Perth 7 years ago fighting to prevent a 10.9 hour roster and wanted the 11.4. They got it.
Returned to 8 hour at Melbourne International 6 years ago to retain their 9.5 hour roster. They got it.
Return to 8 hour nationwide until Nassenstain, Lowrey and Filipeto are gone. You will get it and may even keep your job.
I don't think you are so cool Banana head. Always spreading rubbish on here and it is always pro company. I don't know if you are posting from the crisis centre or not but maybe you should do some research before you sprout your crap.
Returned to 8 hour in Servicing 15 years ago fighting for a better 12 hour roster. They got it.
Returned to 8 hour in Perth 7 years ago fighting to prevent a 10.9 hour roster and wanted the 11.4. They got it.
Returned to 8 hour at Melbourne International 6 years ago to retain their 9.5 hour roster. They got it.
Return to 8 hour nationwide until Nassenstain, Lowrey and Filipeto are gone. You will get it and may even keep your job.
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I have never said the company want an 8hr roster. An extended hour 10.9 or similar would be their preference over the 44% penalties with 20th days roster domestic work now.
I'm happy to stop "spreading rubbish" on this subject anyway. Put the 8hr to a vote and it will never get up. It's a waste of breath discussing it further.
The days of the slow bake and waiting for the bodies to float down the river are over. It's a different climate company wide now. Time for different tactics and probably time for new leadership.
Drop the philosophic sh!t and get on with it.
I'm happy to stop "spreading rubbish" on this subject anyway. Put the 8hr to a vote and it will never get up. It's a waste of breath discussing it further.
The days of the slow bake and waiting for the bodies to float down the river are over. It's a different climate company wide now. Time for different tactics and probably time for new leadership.
Drop the philosophic sh!t and get on with it.
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Are you guys serious ? Do you really think the 4on 4 off roster as we know it is here to stay. Stop kidding yourself. An 8 hour roster is NOT playing into there hands as they can do that whenever they want. They know how unproductive it is and we should show them just that. If you are scared to vote it in your a fool for thinking things aren't going to change.
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Rosters are going to change but why put ourselves through the pain of an 8 hour when it is not what anyone wants?
I hope the changing 380 roster isn't the only reason some people are considering voting in the 8 hour? Flexible rostering was part of the deal when they went over there.
I hope the changing 380 roster isn't the only reason some people are considering voting in the 8 hour? Flexible rostering was part of the deal when they went over there.
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Flexible rostering for 380 was only to be in place for the first 5 years. That has passed now.
I think you will find that there is a recent notice from Filipetto explaining that all rosters are under review anyway. When this happens watch them threaten all with 8 hour rosters if they don't agree to what they want. It's coming anyway.
I think you will find that there is a recent notice from Filipetto explaining that all rosters are under review anyway. When this happens watch them threaten all with 8 hour rosters if they don't agree to what they want. It's coming anyway.
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Bring in the 8 hour and watch it fail. It won't be long before there is a new change in management to cover up the failure and ask us all to go back to extended hour rosters.
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I can't wait to transfer to your SAM CREW coolb1banana
You are the standard BASE TYPE DEAD S..T
You comment on the terminal rostering is pathetic and ill informed
You spew crap
I bet your sitting back enjoying this - as fellow LAMES many with families and mortgages are being sacked -work colleges and friends
You are the standard BASE TYPE DEAD S..T
You comment on the terminal rostering is pathetic and ill informed
You spew crap
I bet your sitting back enjoying this - as fellow LAMES many with families and mortgages are being sacked -work colleges and friends
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SOF and COOLB1
Divided we fall,keep in mind there are people who are being severely effected at the moment please don't start a us and them mentality.
As for rosters,DMM and foreman on a different roster compared to base crews and A380.they want to align the pillars by putting everyone on same roster.
So what roster would you actually want?
Rubber dick Tuesday.
DMM three days two nights
A380 roster
10.9 or 8 hours
One way or another the lashings will continue
Divided we fall,keep in mind there are people who are being severely effected at the moment please don't start a us and them mentality.
As for rosters,DMM and foreman on a different roster compared to base crews and A380.they want to align the pillars by putting everyone on same roster.
So what roster would you actually want?
Rubber dick Tuesday.
DMM three days two nights
A380 roster
10.9 or 8 hours
One way or another the lashings will continue
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Boys... the only way Ngineers post of Mr. DeVito could have been beter, is if he could put Texas Tony or NS face on it. 
His post sums it up, they are watching and
while we argue.
Don't fight each other. Fight them.
Facts are:
They know 8 hr shifts do not work.
They know there are cheaper shifts (than 12 hr) that do work. (ie. 10.4 ect)
They know we will not vote for it.
So all they have to do:
is go to 8hr (we vote for it or they put us on it),
make a sh!t roster (like on 1 off 2 on 1 off or the like, to mess us around)
make live hell and we will vote to get away from it.
Clear heads boys, clear heads.......
Remember the REAL enemy!!!!!
His post sums it up, they are watching and
while we argue.Don't fight each other. Fight them.
Facts are:
They know 8 hr shifts do not work.
They know there are cheaper shifts (than 12 hr) that do work. (ie. 10.4 ect)
They know we will not vote for it.
So all they have to do:
is go to 8hr (we vote for it or they put us on it),
make a sh!t roster (like on 1 off 2 on 1 off or the like, to mess us around)
make live hell and we will vote to get away from it.
Clear heads boys, clear heads.......
Remember the REAL enemy!!!!!
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They now 8 hour roster will not work. If roster not work planes sit idle. If planes sit idle management have problem not us. Coolbanana is just part of problem. Most on my crew say bring it on!!!