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Old 17th Jul 2014, 11:33
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JetGo Australia to lease three ERJ-140s from Republic - ch-aviation.com

Looks like they are expanding again.
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Here's very interesting commentary in light of the Republic presser just out. Granted Australia is a different dynamic, but it won't be beer and skittles either, regardless of the choice of airframe:

Aviation Week Nov 2011
Many regional carriers are having a difficult time with 50-seat aircraft, which have become unsuitable for many markets because of high fuel costs and the limited number of seats over which to spread the higher costs, but Republic appears to be the first to have reached the breaking point.


“It's difficult to see how we can continue to operate these aircraft for our major airline partners unless we significantly reduce the operating costs,” says Bryan Bedford, Republic's CEO.

Bedford has blamed some of the problem on escalating maintenance costs, above-market lease rates and uneconomical fixed-fee reimbursement rates. But there also is something else at work, he says: Fixed-fee flying for major airlines is not producing the historical level of returns because automatic rate increases in those fixed-fee contracts are tied to the Consumer Price Index, which has not risen much in recent years—certainly not enough to keep pace with regional airline costs for labor, health care and maintenance.


That makes 50-seater economics even more difficult to overcome, he says. Concurrently, major airline downsizing of their “marginal hubs” has lessened demand for the aircraft. For Republic, even cutting its 50-seat aircraft fleet by nearly half since the end of 2007 has not been enough. Nor is having 11 of the ERJ 145s subleased offshore, as was the case as of Sept. 30.
The tough question is: What can Republic do about it? Republic says it plans to negotiate lower costs with stakeholders, but there is a problem. Not only does Chautauqua own 22 of its ERJ 145s, but 22 of them are leased from General Electric Capital Aviation Services (Gecas). Gecas also is leasing six ERJ 145s to Aeromexico, seven to SkyWest subsidiary ExpressJet and six to Trans States Airlines in the U.S., and nine to Passaredo Transportes Aereos in Brazil. If Gecas lowers lease rates for Republic in mid-contract, you can bet other carriers also will be knocking at its door. That might limit the leasing company's desire to cut a deal.
Other regionals will be paying attention, especially since 50-seat aircraft still accounted for nearly half the U.S. regional airline fleet as of July, and the fuel prices that have made many routes uneconomical for them are not likely to fall. As reported in Aviation Week in May, over the rest of this decade more than 70% of those 50-seaters will reach the end of their capacity purchase contracts.


Earlier this year, SkyWest Airlines COO Chip Childs told me the widely predicted demise of the 50-seater has been overstated because operators will be able to negotiate new, lower-cost rates when their current leases expire. Republic's attempt to do so even earlier could provide an early indication of what is really possible.
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Earlier this year, SkyWest Airlines COO Chip Childs told me the widely predicted demise of the 50-seater has been overstated because operators will be able to negotiate new, lower-cost rates when their current leases expire. Republic's attempt to do so even earlier could provide an early indication of what is really possible.
I think that quote alone ( even though this article was in 2011) says Jetgo know their market. back in Sky Air World Days they paid well over $400 000 a month for a EMB170 which can be leased now for $160 000 month. ERJ's being parked and retired by ACMI operators such as Republic, whom no longer can make a living out of such low rates to the majors are a bonus to operators like Jetgo that can pick these airframes up for way under market rates... All Jetgos fleet are still only 10 years old and one of their fleet only has 5000 TT hours VS some of the 20 yr old plus 40 000 hr plus hours of their " supposed opposition" turbo props.... know who Id prefer to fly for and with if I were the travelling public
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jetgo dot com looks as though its new web is up, still no ports listed however. Damm!
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jetgo.com ?


Doesn't look any different.


Maybe was pulled from 2 hours ago.
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Try opening it in a fresh browser or clearing your internet cache
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Old 18th Jul 2014, 04:35
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JETGO RPT ROUTES

Watch the Sydney - Tamworth route. Paul Bredereck, listed as Managing Director Airlines within Jetgo, is a local who owned Tamair and is still well thought of in Tamworth by residents. Tamworth Regional Council has been endevouring to interest another airline like Skytrans to serve the city and give some competition to Qantaslink. Rex is the ideal airline, more so with their new Armidale service and reportedly lower fares which is being noted in Tamworth but the Tamworth R. C. will not accept Rex's conditions on not paying for passenger screening which they don't require. Dubbo could be another contender with Rex waring with the local Council and their recent loss of a court battle with the Council, again over paying for security charges.
Interesting period ahead - maybe Wellcamp - Sydney could be a goer as a number of new routes from Newcastle.
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Bit slow on the uptake Tailwheel! see above posts.

Does anyone know the operating costs / fuel burn of the EMB135/145 type aircraft?
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Old 18th Jul 2014, 09:57
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Western Star front page:

"Roma to Sydney in one hour" ............ in Alliance's Fokker 70/ Cobham's 717.

Why didn't Jetgo make sure their own airframe made it onto the front page.

C'mon............ marketing!!!!
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Old 18th Jul 2014, 10:24
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MD-80 actually, so no not a 717 (engine is a JT8) and not a Fokker (slats) and given there is no quote from the company I would hazard to bet that it was not a company release.

My bet is stock photo and someone at the Roma end who has leaked the info So jetgo probably knew nothing about it until it happened.

But only if I was a betting man.
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That's funny Hempy, my first laugh on PP
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Anybody know, how much 'strength' went into Roma (&/or Miles-Condamine) when the runway was (/wasn't) 'reworked'....????

How hard is the EMB- ACN/PCN wise.....???

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ACN/PCN

From a little bit of looking. Emb145 15C 130psi , Roma 18C 141psi. So all good.
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The 12 Q400 flights per day will do more damage to the runway over time than the occasional E135 will
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Anyone who interviewed recently hear anything back?

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Old 25th Jul 2014, 13:41
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Here, Traveller 1982?

....or There?

I hope they didn't make you do a speling teste.

...than again, if they don't like old guys, maybe spelin isnt impoartent.
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Old 25th Jul 2014, 13:50
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Thanks mate always great to get a hand from someone more edumacated than myself
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Sorry mate

Long week
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Old 27th Jul 2014, 23:20
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JetGo Australia (Brisbane Int'l) will lease three ERJ-140LR aircraft from US operator, Republic Airlines (YX, Chicago O'Hare) SkyWorld Aviation has revealed. The aircraft in question - N297SK (cn 145522), N295SK (cn 145513) and N371SK (cn 145535) - are configured with 44 Economy class seats and due to be delivered in August, September and October this year.

The Australian corporate shuttle and ad-hoc charter specialist also operates three ERJ-135s with one ERJ-145 on order.

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