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300 Qantas pilots to get the chop ???

Old 29th May 2014, 04:30
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"Ansett version II reduced wages considerably and operated one aircraft type and they still failed."

Ahhhh, the Tesna bid failed for several reasons but operating cost was not one of them.
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Old 29th May 2014, 04:49
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My point exactly.

The Ansett guys and girls were being paid less and it didn't stop the Tesna failure.

The Qantas guys could work for less now, but it wouldn't change the outcome of a failed group strategy.

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Old 29th May 2014, 06:04
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Al E Vator, can you name one of those current contracts? After a fair bit of looking, Qantas is the only one I've found.

V Jet, LWOP pilots don't cost anything and are no longer on the RIN fleets. Unfortunate for some!
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Old 29th May 2014, 06:38
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^^^ Exactly!
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Old 29th May 2014, 08:40
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Elevator has said it all!

You will all rot in your own cess pits, you fools!

QED
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Old 29th May 2014, 09:15
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OneDotLow

For some reason, the "QF/JQ/DJ/TT pilot" that people bitc# about on here seems to be a totally different person from the mate that they have known for years who works there. We really are not all that different.
Exactly.

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Old 29th May 2014, 09:55
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Seriously you are kidding yourself.
I will lend you some silver bars and try that approach with some wearing gold bars and you may be surprised.
You will notice me in the terminal I will be the one looking you straight in the eyes and waiting for a response and 80% of the time nothing, I no longer initiate and yes it is a game for me as well.
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Old 29th May 2014, 10:12
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Having worn both colour bars, I must side with onedotlow here. I know exactly which group are more likely to look away.
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Old 29th May 2014, 10:28
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toolish,

Well I guess I am in your 20% and likely you are mine as well. We can only speak from experience. I was going to ask if someone had worn both and what they thought, and old mate has chimed in.

You will notice me in the terminal I will be the one looking you straight in the eyes and waiting for a response
It is customary to add a verbal greeting when eyeballing someone. "Hello, g'day, hi...." Anything will do.

If it's any consolation, your two stripers seem happy enough to say g'day. They grow up so fast don't they...

You lot sound like absolute children....
Sad, but true... Envy / tall poppy syndrome runs deeper, the larger the ego. And we do have a lot of large egos in this game. Particularly when they can hide behind a username.

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Old 29th May 2014, 10:28
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I always smile. Often snubbed.

damned if I can get a smile back from those cute hosties
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Old 29th May 2014, 10:58
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I did have a giggle the other day when standing next in line at the x-ray- waiting for the passenger in front of me to go through the metal detector- only to have two Jetstar pilots put their stuff in front of mine for the X-ray, say 'excuse me', walk through the metal detector, pick up their stuff and then toddle off to the coffee shop. Their was two people behind me.

To both QF crew and JQ crew, if you're going to push to the front of the security line, don't then walk into the coffee shop and sit down for the next 20 minutes. Passengers notice that stuff.
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Old 29th May 2014, 11:11
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Are you wearing pants whilst smiling maggot

Guys, some perspective please, the 'he didn't smile at me and now I have sand in my [email protected]' aint exactly constructive. 300 guys are about to be unemployed.

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Old 29th May 2014, 11:15
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I have yet to read anywhere that 300 pilots are about to be unemployed.

I've read that those interested in taking a VR may express their desire to do so.

But its voluntary.

If the company was intending to make people unemployed, they would have opened the VR offer to B744 SO's as well.
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Old 29th May 2014, 11:21
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I apologise, I'll get back in my box, just an observation that moaning about who says hi to who or who cuts in front of who at the security checkpoint is a bit average.
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Old 29th May 2014, 11:28
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That's gold.
Dont retreat a little perspective is good.
I probably should not have entered the thread myself I am just sick of how short some people's memory is.
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Old 29th May 2014, 11:47
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, the 'he didn't smile at me and now I have sand in my [email protected]' aint exactly constructive.
Lmao that's the best chortle I've had all week
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Old 29th May 2014, 12:05
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Originally Posted by j3pipercub
Are you wearing pants whilst smiling maggot
Details, details! They always get you on the details!

I agree, perspective is needed. I just flew with a guy right in the firing line, should it occur. It can be hard to look beyond our own noses when you're under the pump yourself.
Stick with it fellas
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Old 29th May 2014, 13:38
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If the company was intending to make people unemployed, they would have opened the VR offer to B744 SO's as well.
Not really. Think about it...
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Old 29th May 2014, 14:36
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"300 guys are about to be unemployed."

Maybe, but at least it will free them up to obtain more highly paid jobs . . . . apparently.
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Old 29th May 2014, 21:55
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You are correct, I cant see any Qf driver not getting a job in aviation that they apply for, its just tragically sad its not the one they want, and already have.

S/O's might be a different story, even though they are F/O's in any other language.
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