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Old 6th May 2014, 07:21
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It was taking off from 27. I would be extremely surprised if it had time to rotate, reject and pull up by the intersection.

Conditions did not allow for 34. Debris was all over 27 and the safety vehicle reported finding a fan blade.

It was towed back to the bay for a few hours and then towed to W2 I believe. No visible damage to the N1 fan that I could see.
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Old 6th May 2014, 08:24
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Melbourne Airport said the "disabled" A330 caused flight delays for about 40 minutes around 11:00am (AEST) and eight flights were diverted to Adelaide Airport.
I don't know if it was Melbourne Airport (whoever that is) or the ABC, but apparently the word disabled is such a sensitive issue it has to be put in quotes.

Edited to add - the next paragraph is even better!

An airport spokeswoman said the plane was not on fire and reports elsewhere of sparks and smoke coming from the plane were likely debris from the plane hitting the runway.
Edited further to add - reading it again its unfortunately worded. I think they meant [debris from the plane] [hitting the runway] not [debris] [from the plane hitting the runway] which is how I read it. Maybe is like the inkblot test, what you see says more about you than the inkblot.

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Old 6th May 2014, 08:24
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Newspapers earlier today had quotes saying they put the nose back on and stopped on the runway but those reports have been subsequently deleted.
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Old 6th May 2014, 08:32
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Nautilus

Some of these writers should go into the comedy festival !

I honestly don't think they read before publishing.
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Old 6th May 2014, 08:37
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i am consistently annoyed at the condescending drivel lambasting reporters and eyewitnesses trying to make sense of aviation emergencies. It is one of the least endearing characteristics of some alleged pilots.

By way of example, I race yachts for sport and some of the events scare the crap out of novices, but do we laugh at them?
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Old 6th May 2014, 08:47
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Old 6th May 2014, 09:22
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Hear hear sunfish. If all you have to contribute is disbelief at how laypeople comprehend something as complex as aviation, don't post.

Seems a lot of initial reports are on the money though, high speed reject following a blade failure, one would definitely expect debris, burning tyres etc...
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Old 6th May 2014, 09:33
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i am consistently annoyed at the condescending drivel lambasting reporters and eyewitnesses trying to make sense of aviation emergencies. It is one of the least endearing characteristics of some alleged pilots.
The issue is why is it published. The reason for the lambasting is the appalling inaccuracy of what is published as fact.

For example in this particular case there is a huge difference between a rejected take-off and a aircraft rotating then putting the nose on the runway and stopping as was reported earlier today.
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Old 6th May 2014, 09:36
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i am consistently annoyed at the condescending drivel lambasting reporters and eyewitnesses trying to make sense of aviation emergencies. It is one of the least endearing characteristics of some alleged pilots.
Makes them all sound like a bunch of self important wankers doesn't it.

Surely not ?
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Old 6th May 2014, 09:37
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Sunfish, save your outrage. Sprog reporters are sent out by a sub-editor to find a breaking story to 1. provide copy and 2. get the jump on the opposition. Accuracy is secondary. Reporters rarely have any idea about what they are talking about and in the case of complicated subjects like aviation never get the initial reports right. Dont feel sorry for them.
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Old 6th May 2014, 09:44
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Whats the problem standard unit? Fail the interview?
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Old 6th May 2014, 09:45
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No, just get bored with self important wankers. I'm obviously not alone.....
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Old 6th May 2014, 10:00
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Yeah right, so you did fail the interview.
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Old 6th May 2014, 10:17
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Stop it George.

Your response is doing nothing but reinforcing the stereotype.

Are so so stupid that you cannot see it.......?
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Old 6th May 2014, 10:18
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I understand one media outlet want so get the jump on the competition
And sprog reporter wants to impress his editor.

Why should Quality suffer ? Not just this report but most others on anything aircraft incident related.

It takes 30 seconds to look up and cross check something but even that seems too hard for them. "A 747 is find o the photo, even though it was a DC10 in the incident" as an example.
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Old 6th May 2014, 10:20
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NN,

I'm guessing that to the average joe it means naught whether the A/C rotated or not prior to the RTO. I doubt many joes who hear that will be thinking......"shit, the idiot rejected after V1, wtf!"
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Old 6th May 2014, 11:06
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Like kicking puppies....
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Old 6th May 2014, 13:07
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What Sunfish said

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Old 6th May 2014, 14:18
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What Sunfish said

My bet is that most of the condescending drivel is not from pilots at all.
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Old 6th May 2014, 15:13
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I agree also with the OP the standard of journalism regarding the facts about an aviation incident is decidedly poor.
I've mentioned before that we pilots should put together a committee to oversee and endorse appropriately accurate technical reporting.

I suggest that we draw together a body of aviation professionals, representing not just professional air crew but also Air Traffic Control, Engineers, Flight Attendants and Ground Handlers. (I have included ground handlers here because I am sick to death of the poor attempt many commercials make when including marshalers in some way to sell a product. Too often I see actors waving glow sicks around with absolutely no idea of the correct procedures and don't get me started on their lack of appropriate high visibility clothing or ASIC!)
This was in response to that awful movie 'Flight' and I see no barrier to perhaps expanding the AAAPs role in providing technical advice to journalists whenever an aviation incident hits the news.

Regarding 'said' incident at Melbourne involving the Vietnam A330 methinks it was that pesky Thronomister playing up again
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