Virgin ATR grounded in Albury
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As FVR is now 2 years old, I think you'll find that this is the second to last C Check that will be done in Seletar with all future (apart from the next one) heavy maintenance checks to be done in the Southern Hemisphere.
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I'd hate to be the poor bugger who invested the millions to buy that aeroplane.
you have to wonder just what the cost has been to Virgin and the aeroplane's owner.
ever so glad they started off as multi millionaires.
you have to wonder just what the cost has been to Virgin and the aeroplane's owner.
ever so glad they started off as multi millionaires.
I'd hate to be the poor bugger who invested the millions to buy that aeroplane. you have to wonder just what the cost has been to Virgin and the aeroplane's owner.
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JUST ANOTHER HUGE MESS
It was one of the 1st such repair attempted in the world.
That's only partly the reason for such a very long delay to VH-FVR's return.
The owners would of liaised with the Frogs & the lawyers to help fix this mess.
I for 1 would of loved to be a fly on the wall during those meetings
Make no mistake, it was a very close call to being the 1st hull loss for ...
If I was the MLO, I would of forced the dysfunctional crew to attend these liaisons.
AND AS FOR THOSE CREWS ??? That's right = all's now OPS NORMAL
More of the same in this politically correct,ever becoming $ wasting industry
That's only partly the reason for such a very long delay to VH-FVR's return.
The owners would of liaised with the Frogs & the lawyers to help fix this mess.
I for 1 would of loved to be a fly on the wall during those meetings
Make no mistake, it was a very close call to being the 1st hull loss for ...
If I was the MLO, I would of forced the dysfunctional crew to attend these liaisons.
AND AS FOR THOSE CREWS ??? That's right = all's now OPS NORMAL
More of the same in this politically correct,ever becoming $ wasting industry
The Industry operates on honesty, integrity, trust, and truth. This should be practised and remembered at all times, instead of a tendency to use the smokescreen at times.
Because Virgin employees don't hate their employer.
They allow due process to be followed and corrections to be implemented as intended.
Flame away, whatever...
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I am advised that the previous post must be in error.
the ATR was repaired sufficient for flight and it was flown back to Toulouse by two of the manufacturer's test pilots.
I think it's destination was Toulouse le rudder in France. :-)
ymmv.
the ATR was repaired sufficient for flight and it was flown back to Toulouse by two of the manufacturer's test pilots.
I think it's destination was Toulouse le rudder in France. :-)
ymmv.
Well your source is having a lend...
Still shows registered from 06 Nov 2012. C/n 1058.
Does anyone check facts before posting anymore?
Facts are;
It broke
It got fixed
It's now back in service.
Merry Xmas everyone!
Still shows registered from 06 Nov 2012. C/n 1058.
Does anyone check facts before posting anymore?
Facts are;
It broke
It got fixed
It's now back in service.
Merry Xmas everyone!
W8,as Going Nowhere says,the CASA rego details make no mention of the rego being transferred to another airframe
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IIRC, in the good ole days, a rego couldn't be transferred from one airframe to another of the same type. Any idea is this is/was correct?
It certainly was the case in said good ole days. I don't know what genius changed the rule but it's caused no end of confusion. One of the more notable results being two DC-3s registered VH-PWN (although not simultaneously).
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Facts are;
It broke
It got fixed
It's now back in service
It broke
It got fixed
It's now back in service
Why was it broken? - The pilots were incompetent. Poor CRM, lack of experience... lack of systems knowledge... lack of maturity to report the actual inflight happenings to the on-ground ginger-beer... non-adherence to SOPS... lack of adequate SOPS for such situations... the list goes on. That is why VB stepped in!
What has changed and what has been learnt?
This is what needs to be asked.
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Facts are;
It broke
It got fixed
It's now back in service
It broke
It got fixed
It's now back in service
the aircraft was flown in turbulence on descent at Vmo (maximum operating speed) the turbulence penetration speed is some 50 knots slower than Vmo.
the pilots did not realise that the aircraft was being structurally damaged by the descents.
aircraft continued in service until a bird strike caused a mechanic to have a look at what the damage was.
the inspection showed structural damage that had escaped the manufacturers inspection procedures, (built as they were on slower speed assumptions and lesser structural loads.)
there is obviously more to it than this potted history.
two of the manufacturer's test pilots flew that repaired aircraft back to Toulouse. presumably this will allow the designers to investigate what will be needed in the design to prevent a recurrence.
your mileage may vary.
have a safe flight.
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two of the manufacturer's test pilots flew that repaired aircraft back to Toulouse. presumably this will allow the designers to investigate what will be needed in the design to prevent a recurrence.
there is obviously more to it than this potted history.