Jetstar NZ pilot needs a break! Give me a break...
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: I prefer to remain north of a direct line BNE-ADL
Age: 48
Posts: 1,286
Likes: 0
Received 33 Likes
on
10 Posts
RAD ALT , everyone I have known has got the hell out of Jetstar NZ because of the crap pay and rostering, but I respect you for sticking around I guess. Have you looked elsewhere? I honestly dont know anyone that has hung around in Jetstar NZ, unless they are local kiwis close to retirement.
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If you guys try and enforce it, you will do your own part in making it just so much harder for JQ to stay competitive
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: nowhere
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hey FatGuy,
Ansett NZ crews had a meal break all those yrs ago as the time in flt was insufficient.
As to those kissarses whinging about how much longer their duty will be, I'm guessing an extra 30 mins, fcuk, that'll kill anyone compared to working say a 12 hr day without the time to eat a decent meal without having to scoff it down
.
Ansett NZ crews had a meal break all those yrs ago as the time in flt was insufficient.
As to those kissarses whinging about how much longer their duty will be, I'm guessing an extra 30 mins, fcuk, that'll kill anyone compared to working say a 12 hr day without the time to eat a decent meal without having to scoff it down
.
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: south pacific vagrant
Posts: 1,334
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
rad alt
forgive me if you were upset by my comments. perhaps if you were a little more accurate with the location under your name...
anyway, youre entitled to your view and fair enough. i did meet the applicant once but it was a long time ago. not sure that soft is word i'd use to describe him.
is jqnz's position so tenuous that 30min breaks will kill it? afaik the link guys and airnz domestic get breaks. is that still the case?
forgive me if you were upset by my comments. perhaps if you were a little more accurate with the location under your name...
anyway, youre entitled to your view and fair enough. i did meet the applicant once but it was a long time ago. not sure that soft is word i'd use to describe him.
is jqnz's position so tenuous that 30min breaks will kill it? afaik the link guys and airnz domestic get breaks. is that still the case?
Last edited by waren9; 25th Feb 2014 at 16:29.
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,188
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
A pilot couldn't expect to walk into JQ NZ flight operations and say I know of a regulatory limit. However, due to commercial reasons I choose not to abide by the regulation.
So what makes JQ NZ think they can walk into court and say they are aware of NZ employment law however due commercial pressures don't want to abide by them.
Says a lot about the business model.
So what makes JQ NZ think they can walk into court and say they are aware of NZ employment law however due commercial pressures don't want to abide by them.
Says a lot about the business model.
This wasnt about rest breaks. It was about an employer who had all the 'right' clauses in a contract and then chose not comply with them because they said they couldnt afford it! No employee should put up woth this, Jetstar setup the NZ crewing company to undercut its other pilots with little understanding of NZ employment law. They only have themselves to blame as this was pointed out to them years ago and they chose to ignore it.
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
All this hype of saying that giving a crew a 30 minute break to comply with IR law is going to push the company over the edge is a bit much. If they can't give a crew 30 mins clear of the tin can when they were going to have a 20 min turnaround anyway it's a bit poor - they have more than one aircraft and more than one crew - they could easily slip another crew onto the inbound a/c that is not due for a break yet, or a crew that has just completed a break, and then the inbound crew takes something else out after their 30 mins at the table. It's not difficult. The managers who talk this nonsense enjoy their extended lunchbreaks usually while formulating this type of policy.
There's no time for a break; nor is there room for the softies that want them.
They wouldn't go to Brunei and expect to serve booze so why come to NZ and not comply? Maybe Air NZ could start a "Level Playing Field " campaign whinging about how they have to let their pilots wander into the terminal once a day but the competition doesn't?
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Australia
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Very pyrrhic victory, guys. Very pyrrhic. It might be consistent with NZ labour laws, but it is going to cost you in the long run. Efficiency is everything.
And before you start throwing stones at me I've done thousand of hours in that sort of operation, some of them in airplanes which took a lot more attention than the ones you are flying.
And before you start throwing stones at me I've done thousand of hours in that sort of operation, some of them in airplanes which took a lot more attention than the ones you are flying.
And it is because of 'pilots' who accept these breaches of the law that the whole industry is disappearing down the sinkhole. These 'rules' are a cost to doing business in NZ. The judgement stated, these are the minimum standards to which you must comply, the fact that you run a low cost operation gives you no more right to ignore these minimum standards than a sweat shop owner!
I have to agree, they could have avoided all of these sorts of issues by putting our colleagues in NZ on the Australian EBA as originally planned, funnily enough with the current exchange rate that would have been cheaper!
Just like Qantas, the way this company is run at times borders on negligence, and for that the staff should not need apologise or accept illegal practices no matter how minor!!
I have to agree, they could have avoided all of these sorts of issues by putting our colleagues in NZ on the Australian EBA as originally planned, funnily enough with the current exchange rate that would have been cheaper!
Just like Qantas, the way this company is run at times borders on negligence, and for that the staff should not need apologise or accept illegal practices no matter how minor!!
Hey rad alt.....are you sure you're not a management suck up?
Well he thinks NZ IR laws are archaic and can be ignored, perhaps he can provide a list of other laws which are OK to break?
Well he thinks NZ IR laws are archaic and can be ignored, perhaps he can provide a list of other laws which are OK to break?
