Fires lit on Etihad flight
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Fires lit on Etihad flight
The Sydney Morning Herald is now reporting that a 777 operated by a certain Middle East carrier diverted to Jakarta due to smoke in the cabin. After a 4 hour transit, the flight continued to its destination but further fires are alleged to have been lit (and obviously contained).
Tthe report is here: Etihad flight diverted to Jakarta after 'disruptions'
Any comments on this report?
Tthe report is here: Etihad flight diverted to Jakarta after 'disruptions'
Any comments on this report?
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Etihad on fire
Some pax said "Airline of the year? What a joke!"
"Absolutely disgusted by Etihad treatment"
What they don't understand is 3 times someone set fire to the aircraft toilets.
3 times this aircraft was put at massive risk.
The risk of terrorism is still a massive threat, especially in Australia.
Be alert, not alarmed.
Claims a series of fires were lit on-board Etihad flight from Melbourne | News.com.au
"Absolutely disgusted by Etihad treatment"
What they don't understand is 3 times someone set fire to the aircraft toilets.
3 times this aircraft was put at massive risk.
The risk of terrorism is still a massive threat, especially in Australia.
Be alert, not alarmed.
Claims a series of fires were lit on-board Etihad flight from Melbourne | News.com.au
A friend of mine was on the flight and pretty much as the report states, he and his colleagues weren't impressed that the flight continued ex-CGK without identifying/searching/removing the arsonist/s onboard.... 
Not a good scenario with multiple 'fires' being lit repeatedly. No other choice but to put the cabin in 'lockdown' mode I spose...
BR
Not a good scenario with multiple 'fires' being lit repeatedly. No other choice but to put the cabin in 'lockdown' mode I spose...
BR
Surely someone who goes to the toilet multiple times on the same flight would be recognised by a fellow passenger- especially if their toilet visit occurred within a minute of another fire breaking out. Perhaps the flight was not full and the culprit also playing musical chairs?
It's a shame the perpetrator couldn't be identified and thus charged under anti terrorism laws in Indonesia or UAE. Fire and aircraft are never a good mix. Sounds like the crew did a good job in quickly containing the fires.
I'm a little amazed that the flight was allowed to continue from CGK though if they couldn't identify a culprit after what had occurred on-board from MEL-CGK. Not sure what the answer is though- confiscating all lighters and matches from passengers as they pass through security and pat down of all passengers? A tough one for authorities. Thankfully, the flight ultimately arrived safely at AUH.
It's a shame the perpetrator couldn't be identified and thus charged under anti terrorism laws in Indonesia or UAE. Fire and aircraft are never a good mix. Sounds like the crew did a good job in quickly containing the fires.
I'm a little amazed that the flight was allowed to continue from CGK though if they couldn't identify a culprit after what had occurred on-board from MEL-CGK. Not sure what the answer is though- confiscating all lighters and matches from passengers as they pass through security and pat down of all passengers? A tough one for authorities. Thankfully, the flight ultimately arrived safely at AUH.
when you read that news release you can but wonder what was the truth
if a nut case lit several fires in all the paper that accumulates in the waste bins
and if the fires were quickly put out then the cabin crew are doing what they were trained to do, proficiently. If the perpetrator was not identified and restrained by the pilots (who have handcuffs , baton, axe), then they might be found lacking
were not lessons learned from the Saudi DC-10 heading for Mecca in 1983?
the failure of that crew, led by the captain in denial, led to the deaths of all persons on board
the doco reconstructing that flight should be watched by everyone whose
job it is to act quickly and decisively to a major threat whether in flight or on the ground
if a nut case lit several fires in all the paper that accumulates in the waste bins
and if the fires were quickly put out then the cabin crew are doing what they were trained to do, proficiently. If the perpetrator was not identified and restrained by the pilots (who have handcuffs , baton, axe), then they might be found lacking
were not lessons learned from the Saudi DC-10 heading for Mecca in 1983?
the failure of that crew, led by the captain in denial, led to the deaths of all persons on board
the doco reconstructing that flight should be watched by everyone whose
job it is to act quickly and decisively to a major threat whether in flight or on the ground
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Not sure what the answer is though- confiscating all lighters and matches from passengers as they pass through security and pat down of all passengers?
probably leadie . .. . . . if it was the one where the middle eastern captain (and later the actor playing him) kept saying to the quite ageing American F/E who came back to tell of smoke in the cabin . . . .. "WHAT?"
AH THINK WE SHOULD TURN BACK NOW
WHAT???
AH THINK WE SHOULD TURN BACK NOW
WHAT???
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Yes that was the one. The crime was an evacuation was not ordered once on the ground as there was a "Royal" flight movement at the time. Everyone was so sh1t scared to even say boo, let alone evacuate.
It's the smoke that will kill you first.
It's the smoke that will kill you first.
Perhaps the culprit was identified and the company was simply waiting to get him to a jurisdiction that deals with such people rather decisively............
One can but hope that he suffers first.
One can but hope that he suffers first.
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A Fairfax journo is currently being interviewed on ABC Radio in Sydney. It seems that they are hitting the proverbial brick wall WRT a statement from Etihad. I suspect that Scott Morrison maybe on their payroll.
Everyone is ASSUMING that the three fires were the work of ONE person. Who says that this wasn't a bit more of a co-ordinated operation. I still don't understand why we allow people to board aircraft with matches and lighters 
There is nothing more threatening to an aircraft than fire onboard, numerous fires at one time could be a disaster.
There is nothing more threatening to an aircraft than fire onboard, numerous fires at one time could be a disaster.
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I find it rather extraordinary that the flight diverted due to fire(s) and that it resumed flight with all of the passengers, not having seemingly taken any action to prevent a recurrence. What happened to their duty of care, not only to the pax but also to the crew? If I were a punter on that flight I know I'd be mightily disturbed. It won't be long now before Slater & Gordon or similar will be going after Etihad.
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Yeah…doubt it was ash…Too many indications that it was a fire starter. The pressure to continue on after a search turned up nothing would have been pretty strong. That's how most airlines work…get that jet home, we need it ASAP!
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In the local newspaper.
"A dozen passengers have been detained by Abu Dhabi security authorities after multiple fires were lit on board a flight that left Melbourne on Monday night, terrifying passengers for hours.
"A dozen passengers have been detained by Abu Dhabi security authorities after multiple fires were lit on board a flight that left Melbourne on Monday night, terrifying passengers for hours.
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It just goes to show that all the security BS in the world won't stop a person or persons from doing what they believe is necessary whether it be for religious reasons, political motivation or just pure insanity.
One partial solution is to remove the toilet doors, then we shall see whom has a genuine reason to go into the smallest part of an Airliner:-)
As has been indirectly mentioned here already commercial pressure is everything when it comes to an Airline, safety takes a second place if it can be done so.
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One partial solution is to remove the toilet doors, then we shall see whom has a genuine reason to go into the smallest part of an Airliner:-)
As has been indirectly mentioned here already commercial pressure is everything when it comes to an Airline, safety takes a second place if it can be done so.
Wmk2
