Aviation sector on brink of collapse, Gary's not happy either
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Aviation sector on brink of collapse, Gary's not happy either
Like airlines in the US trying to compete with Chapter 11 operators, I blame again that revolting little twerp at Qf and his cabal of thieves for deliberately ruining not just an airline, but now an industry that once led the world. The Leper e chaun has big coffers (though he is working hard on that problem) and would probably see Rex as collateral damage. It may be harsh, but I see Jetstar if not the root of all evil (it wasn't around for Anita Cobby for example) then certainly up there! And it in itself is failing.... It was responsible for the madness in fare slashing and now the industry is reaping as it sowed. The ridiculous thing is, Australians are NOT adverse to paying a fair price for a fair product... I knwo the argument for setting it up was to protect Qf from LCC's but the reality seems to be Qf needed more protecting from its own management than any genuine commercial competition.
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sounds like
these airlines (Rex, QF etc.) want less workers, to do a lot more hours, for a lot less pay.
Next thing they'll be bringing in workers on 457 visas, as they'll say they can't get the workers here !!!
They did it to taxi drivers, so why not airline employees ?
+ possibly more offshoring.
FJ's & AA's call centre is answered in Suva Fiji by a company called Mind Pearl.
Not very well trained & when you consider Fiji just raised their minimum wage to $2/hour, that's Fijian peso, not AUD$ or about USD$1/hour, it's no wonder many companies are looking to offshore.
Apparently Philippines is flavour of the month.
On the other hand Borghetti has been quoted as saying something to the effect, that bringing call centres back onshore, actually makes the airline money, by being able to communicate properly with callers & selling something or upselling, rather than just being a poor quality info supplier.
Next thing they'll be bringing in workers on 457 visas, as they'll say they can't get the workers here !!!
They did it to taxi drivers, so why not airline employees ?
+ possibly more offshoring.
FJ's & AA's call centre is answered in Suva Fiji by a company called Mind Pearl.
Not very well trained & when you consider Fiji just raised their minimum wage to $2/hour, that's Fijian peso, not AUD$ or about USD$1/hour, it's no wonder many companies are looking to offshore.
Apparently Philippines is flavour of the month.
On the other hand Borghetti has been quoted as saying something to the effect, that bringing call centres back onshore, actually makes the airline money, by being able to communicate properly with callers & selling something or upselling, rather than just being a poor quality info supplier.
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Of course over regulation would have nothing to do with it?
Perhaps the answer is to operate everything here on the NZ register.
Passing strange that in NZ the aviation industry seems to be doing very well
in all sphere's, while ours slowly spirals down the gurgler.
Perhaps the answer is to operate everything here on the NZ register.
Passing strange that in NZ the aviation industry seems to be doing very well
in all sphere's, while ours slowly spirals down the gurgler.
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Over regulation is one of the major causes. I suggest reading the release from Rex yesterday in conjunction with the Chairmans Report in last years Annual Results AND the incoming Minister of Infrastructure aviation Policy - not much has been done to fix the mess left by Albo!!
Holding Libs to account
Looks like Rex Management are doing a good job attempting to hold the Libs to account....
Rex welcomes Coalition Policy for aviation
Recalling promises made prior to the election...
The Coalitions plan for aviation
Rex welcomes Coalition Policy for aviation
Recalling promises made prior to the election...
The Coalitions plan for aviation
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Yet another call for a bailout. Must be nice working for an organisation where you can hold a gun to a politician's head. Tip for the Libs/Nats: ignore them! Let the market sort it out. That said, how about some changes to the market so that the market can do its stuff and work it out? Keep working on removing the carbon tax.
Step 1: A broom through the CASA to get the regs sorted out.
Step 2: Get rid of RPT designations. An aviation company either meets the requirements to fly or it doesn't.
Step 3: Invest in some infrastructure. Build some aerodromes. Give some money to the states to allocate it towards aerodromes as they see fit.
Step 4: Sydney Kingsford Smith is dead as the prime international aerodrome! The realization that Sydney is no longer suitable as the international gateway to Australia is important so that organisations can move forward with other options.
Step 5: Let Qantas, Virgin and Rex sort out their own problems.
Step 1: A broom through the CASA to get the regs sorted out.
Step 2: Get rid of RPT designations. An aviation company either meets the requirements to fly or it doesn't.
Step 3: Invest in some infrastructure. Build some aerodromes. Give some money to the states to allocate it towards aerodromes as they see fit.
Step 4: Sydney Kingsford Smith is dead as the prime international aerodrome! The realization that Sydney is no longer suitable as the international gateway to Australia is important so that organisations can move forward with other options.
Step 5: Let Qantas, Virgin and Rex sort out their own problems.
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some ex Brindabella routes no one wants !!!
so what happens to old Brindabella routes that no one wants ?
Do they need to be subsidised ?
eg. OOM(Cooma) has been isolated.
Years ago Air NSW (part of Ansett) think it was, did nonstop BNE/OOM on Sundays using an F28 jet.
Same aircraft operated SYD/OOM as well.
At this moment no one flies SYD/OOM in winter !!!
Makes it hard to get to NSW ski resorts this winter unless Rex does pick up SYD/OOM.
CBR is 90 mins north of OOM by road (so 3 hours extra road travel per trip) & on weekends both QF & VA have reduced services by reducing size of aircraft.
Do they need to be subsidised ?
eg. OOM(Cooma) has been isolated.
Years ago Air NSW (part of Ansett) think it was, did nonstop BNE/OOM on Sundays using an F28 jet.
Same aircraft operated SYD/OOM as well.
At this moment no one flies SYD/OOM in winter !!!
Makes it hard to get to NSW ski resorts this winter unless Rex does pick up SYD/OOM.
CBR is 90 mins north of OOM by road (so 3 hours extra road travel per trip) & on weekends both QF & VA have reduced services by reducing size of aircraft.
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re step 2 above
"Step 2: Get rid of RPT designations. An aviation company either meets the requirements to fly or it doesn't."
Seems crazy that any airline could have done charters day after Brindabella fell over even if not currently doing any RPT, but the likes of Rex had to go through proving flights before they could operate routes such as SYD/COBAR & SYD/MUDGEE on an RPT basis.
See
http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-...-services.html
"Step 2: Get rid of RPT designations. An aviation company either meets the requirements to fly or it doesn't."
Seems crazy that any airline could have done charters day after Brindabella fell over even if not currently doing any RPT, but the likes of Rex had to go through proving flights before they could operate routes such as SYD/COBAR & SYD/MUDGEE on an RPT basis.
See
http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-...-services.html
I think the writing is on the wall for Oz.
By the end of 2017
All automotive manufacturing and associated support industries will have ceased to exist.
The majority of farmers will have walked off the farm as the major supermarket chains increase their imported stock lines to almost 100%.
Any other manufacturing in oz will be on its last legs in the face of cheap imports.
The Chinese will be buying almost all their raw materials from Brazil.
The AUD will plummet to close to 40 cents US, the federal gov will hike interest rates massively to try to stem the fall.
Within 15 years of 2017 the federal government will be effectively bankrupt as the tax base from GST and PAYE tax falls to 20% of the 2014 revenues at the same time centrelink payments balloon 1000%
The various union movements still cry out that they have secured the best conditions in the world. They will be correct, for the 3 people in Australia that still work.
I think we all have to get used to the idea of tough times ahead.
By the end of 2017
All automotive manufacturing and associated support industries will have ceased to exist.
The majority of farmers will have walked off the farm as the major supermarket chains increase their imported stock lines to almost 100%.
Any other manufacturing in oz will be on its last legs in the face of cheap imports.
The Chinese will be buying almost all their raw materials from Brazil.
The AUD will plummet to close to 40 cents US, the federal gov will hike interest rates massively to try to stem the fall.
Within 15 years of 2017 the federal government will be effectively bankrupt as the tax base from GST and PAYE tax falls to 20% of the 2014 revenues at the same time centrelink payments balloon 1000%
The various union movements still cry out that they have secured the best conditions in the world. They will be correct, for the 3 people in Australia that still work.
I think we all have to get used to the idea of tough times ahead.
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'nom' you could be on the right track there but I'd say a lot further down the line for that end result. (well I hope so!):-)
That tag we have now 'The lucky country' is only hanging on by a thread I believe & we simply are being priced out of our own country.
Aviation in this country is a shambles, we don't deserve to have one!
I've said it on a few other threads what we need is a new ice age, start afresh!:-)
I'm saddened to think what we are leaving our grand children, a real mess
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That tag we have now 'The lucky country' is only hanging on by a thread I believe & we simply are being priced out of our own country.
Aviation in this country is a shambles, we don't deserve to have one!
I've said it on a few other threads what we need is a new ice age, start afresh!:-)
I'm saddened to think what we are leaving our grand children, a real mess
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if China is forced to float the Yuan, then the table will get a real shakeup! it will make products from here look a lot cheaper. but by the time that happens, we will have no manufacturing left
nomorecatering,
as sad as it is, I would have to agree with your loose assessment of the Australia to come. Unfortunately we can't go on any longer sitting her smugly announcing that we managed to avoid any real pain in the GFC of just a few years ago. I think our downfall is going to be 10 times as painful.
Would it be silly to suggest countries we previously looked upon as "3rd world" to a degree such as China, India will be the new world powerhouses ?
as sad as it is, I would have to agree with your loose assessment of the Australia to come. Unfortunately we can't go on any longer sitting her smugly announcing that we managed to avoid any real pain in the GFC of just a few years ago. I think our downfall is going to be 10 times as painful.
Would it be silly to suggest countries we previously looked upon as "3rd world" to a degree such as China, India will be the new world powerhouses ?
There is a book written by Andrew Liveris(An Australian) who is the current Chairman and CEO of the Dow Chemical Company called "Make it in America"- A Case for reinventing the Economy" where he highlights the countries that are wealthy and will become wealthy are the ones that actually make things e.g. China, Taiwan, Japan,Germany and even Brazil and India. He is head the Obama task force that has been charged with recreating the US manufacturing industry. He laments the translation from a manufacturing driven economy to a service-based economy(sound familiar?) and the fact that the middle class have been decimated. He speaks of Government policy being the main driver in the demise. The US, like Australia, has an almost hostile approach to manufacturing and such things as corporate taxes and energy costs are the main culprits. Andrew says the US government should and they are provide subsidies against energy costs which means a reversal of this manic push to privitise everything and move to be able to have a platform where industry are allowed to get on with it and the emphasis should be on innovation and education in the engineering areas(no not financial engineering, we have had enough of that!). Engineers build things as opposed to Accountants.Maybe Australia would do well to engage Andrew and bring him home before this gets ugly.
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BNEA320 - are you still on uni holidays? Getting bored so filling up your day with useless pprune posts? You really sound like an amateur - give it a break for a while. Notice no one else is replying to any of your comments? You're not as intelligent about the aviation world, or the world in general, as you think you are. Anyone who has been around the industry a while can tell most of your posts are dribble. But then again, when I was 19 I thought I knew it all too.
