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Old 12th Jan 2014, 22:53
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Great insight into what went on behind the scenes.

I have now figured why there was a transition from the manual booking system to a computer based one.

No one could get around this

Identify work activities where a fall hazard may exist; and
Where a fall hazard is identified, develop and implement management strategies according to the hierarchy of control.

For falls of less than two metres:

Develop and document safe work procedures (SWPs) to outline the way in which the hazard will be managed; and
Provide training to employees to provide them with the skills and knowledge to do their work safely

If there is a risk of a fall of more than two metres, specific duties apply:

Perform the task on the ground if possible;
Use a passive fall prevention device;
Use a work positioning system to ensure employees work within a safe area;
Install a fall arrest system to limit the risk of injuries in the event of a fall;
Use a fixed or portable ladder incorporating a risk assessment, safe work procedures and training; and if you are not able to work on the ground or on a solid construction prior to working at height then;
Establish emergency procedures and First Aid provision prior to undertaking the task;
Review documented safe systems of work for contractors who are required to work at height;
Make sure ladders are compliant with AS 1892; and
Monitor the work at height practices of all employees and contractors to ensure they are working safely.
Please don't let these bureaucrats know that aircraft get higher than 2 metres!!
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Old 12th Jan 2014, 23:00
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When I worked in TAA Res in the late 70's the good relationship with Ansett still existed. Res Clerks from both airlines would frequently phone the other carrier when a passenger wanted a flight that was full, or a more conveniently timed flight. It was when providing service was the name of the game.

If memory serves, Macs was the pub situated between the TAA Head Office at 50 Franklin St, and the Ansett Head Office on the corner of Franklin & Swanston. A popular watering hole for staff of both airlines.
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The way we were indeed................

Your post 601 reminds me of more that has changed, the overboard IMHO safety departments.

As I have said I spent my whole working life around aircraft, NEVER once had to use those cones or a high vis jacket (thankfully).

And computers, I truly love my computer, they were obviously a great advancement in that reservations environment, but what about when they stop working, several times I have seen checkins at airports when the computers are down and because the available checkin staff ONLY know computers they are not sure how to do their job like in the good olde days.

Same too with aircraft, I have been with aircraft in some quite remote places where the aircraft is 100% serviceable mechanically but we were stuck there because some damn on board computer wasnt happy.
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Old 12th Jan 2014, 23:35
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It was when providing service was the name of the game.
When AN881 Sydney for Osaka had to return to SYD and then sustained substantial damage in a landing accident (Oct 1994) there was plenty of talk throughout the offices that certain Senior QANTAS management abused the crap out of some 'new' Senior QANTAS management who did not want to offer any assistance. The 'new' were put in their place and told in no uncertain ways that the airline industry does not work that way.

Except for code sharing I really wonder how much co-operation goes on these days in the cut throat world of aviation.
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Except for code sharing I really wonder how much co-operation goes on these days in the cut throat world of aviation.
It would be interesting to know.

In the good ole days at Sunstate when the pride of their fleet was the Irish Concorde (Shorts 360/330), so late 80s to early 90s, I was working for the opposition on the Mohawks. The 330 & Mohawk both ran PT6-45s. Not only did we loan (I'm sure there would have been conditions) Sunstate a PT6 to go into a Shed but our engineers even assisted the build up.
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Old 13th Jan 2014, 00:41
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Good smear attempt but not up to scrutiny
Qantas/Australian Airlines whatever. The guy went for a Qantas Mainline interview. He flew back in a Boeing flown by a Qantas captain - you know, the airline where the pilots where huge wings on their shirts.
The event did happen. It was not a smear it was the truth and if you cannot handle the truth than that is your bloody problem - not mine
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I wish I could go back to the 80's

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Thanks pull-up-terrain, loved the bit at 1:57 'due to it's growing international operations'

From the map I guess we can make out,
Manchester, London, Amsterdam, Vienna, Frankfurt, Rome, Belgrade, Athens, Bahrain, Harare, Bombay, Bangkok, Singapore, Hong Kong, Manila, Jakarta, Denpasar, Tokyo, Nadi, Papeete, LA, San Fran and Vancouver plus 3 in NZ.

No bad for an end-of-the-line carrier.
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It was indeed Macs nestled in between TN & AN.

The Chef there could have a steak sandwich ready for you in minutes while you slammed down three pots on your half hour lunch break.

If anyone on an afternoon shift came down from the Market car park on the way to work and spotted the TN & AN pricing guys having a countery together in the Stork Hotel, the word would immediately go out that there was a fare increase on the way. Passengers, corporates and Agents were all warned.

The prized Macs Chef was enticed to go to the Stork with more money. This happened on more than one occasion with his pay increasing each time as the mob followed him.

The Stork was an early opener for the workers at the Vic Market, but on a hot morning when all the doors were open one could often spy a TN senior exec lubricating himself for the day ahead.

The Stork is sadly dead and gone and has been closed for years as an operational pub. It looked so sad all boarded up. Macs however continues to operate and had been prettied up.

Both were delightfully scungy in the mid 70s as a good Melbourne pub should be!

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Old 13th Jan 2014, 04:10
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Cool Cockpit visits

As a contrast to your mates visit to the cockpit Centaurus check this out, all true (I was there!).
As a brand new comm. pilot licence holder (ink still wet on the paper) I caught an East West F-27 from Sydney to I think Maroochydore in the late 1970's.As was the practice in "those days" I asked the F/A if I could visit the front.When I was ushered into the spacious cockpit of the F-27 (not! little did I know that within 2 years I would be an F/O on a twenty ton dog whistle) I was introduced to the ancient looking Captain (probably about the same age as I am now) and the F/O.After some conversation it emerged that I had recently received my commercial licence, to my astonishment the Captain said to me (without a word of a lie) "Well you had better have a go!" With that the F/O exited his seat and I jumped in.Needless to say it was on autopilot at this stage but as we neared top of descent the autopilot was disconnected and I then commenced the descent by hand, I can recall that I asked the captain if I should reduce power as well as put the nose down and he said "no we go faster this way!"
All true and I am still amazed that it actually took place.I don't think it could ever happen now, sadly as the experience increased my enthusiasm to eventually join an Airline.
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Old 13th Jan 2014, 05:23
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And Macs had Bundaberg Rum to add to pot of beer for us freezing staff from the Isa.
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Old 13th Jan 2014, 05:38
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Loved the QF propaganda Vid, imagine doing that 2day, there would be blood in the cockpit & all over the CEO's office floor!


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Old 13th Jan 2014, 10:55
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I think it was TBH that was in the Central Australian livery however I think you will find the "genetalia" appeared on DC9-30 TJL.

TJL was on the TN555/556 circuit from MEL to PER up over the top and via everywhere when it cacked itself in PHE and was on the ground an extended time due to Engineering sending turbine that was also U/S out on an F27.

While they waited for the 2nd replacement boredom obviously set in.

Funny thing is it wasn't picked up by management for a week!!

Best all

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Just loving this thread, and with Graeme Humphreys funeral this Friday the mention of TBH, well it struck a sentimental chord






The way we were......indeed.
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Old 13th Jan 2014, 10:56
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Brilliant thread

This truly is a thread bringing so many memories back;

Capt Claret - It was good to hear the TAA/Ansett cooperation continued. I also noted you've mention both Sunstate and the Mohawk Aircratft. I did the handling for Sunnies Otters/Bandits/Irish Concordes at Hervey Bay and then later the Mohawks for Majestic Airways (still at Skurvy Bay International Scareport). The happiest days in my aviation career were at Hervey Bay.

Air Support - I'm totally non-technical, but had to work very closely with the Engineers and had the utmost respect for them. I even read a few books about the early Engineers posted to places like Sharjah and India etc and the huge amount of "graunching" that went on.

Keep the memories coming along, I feel a bit younger with each one I read. Paul
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Old 13th Jan 2014, 11:45
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Anybody know where Captain Joe Macarthy, ex Ansett, is today?
He retired in 89, a very astute DC 9 then 727 Captain. I believe he is still kicking around today somewhere.
It's funny as when I started this thread it was meant to bring back the good memories from the good days, and by god it has exceeded my expectations. So many characters out there, so much experience, and so much love for aviation. I have to agree with EWL, hard to keep a dry eye while thumbing back through the history pages. I am very happy that we are able to bring some of that history and those memories back to life for a bit longer
It's nice raising a glass of fine red to the memory of colleagues, aircraft, characters and fallen comrades. Cheers
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Old 13th Jan 2014, 11:49
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That Qantas Pilot recruitment video should be shown to all the board and Joyce. Followed by the question "what the bloody hell have you done to our Airline...."

Bunch of incompetent idiots..

So sad.
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Old 13th Jan 2014, 11:50
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and thank you

Para, thank you for the thread and consequent memories and seeing that you are in Aotearoa brings back my many flights to and within that lovely Country. Paul
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Old 13th Jan 2014, 12:36
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pppdrive,

If you handled Majestic at Skurvey Bay International there's a good chance we met. I worked for QPA, SPRA & Majestic on the Mohawk, admittedly QPA folded as we were filling the aircraft with fuel to commence the endorsement.

Prior to the Mohawks, I worked for Bevan Whittaker flying the Twotters, Nomad & Islanders to LTT and Sandy Cape etc.

Bloody small world, innit!
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Mohawks, Twotters to Lady E

Capt Claret I'm sure we have met as I also (for a while) looked after the Lady E Twotter flights for Bevan. It did conflict a little with the Flight West Bandits I was handling at the same time. If you rmember a skinny ex Pom who had to flit between the Flight West broom cupboard (laughingly known as their 'terminal') and the new Whittaker luxury (by comparison) terminal (but why did all the passengers have to enter by the back door and not the front?). That was me. Give me a clue as I remember two of the Twotter pilots (sorry, but not by name) who were both great guys. Such a shame that I was left wifeless and jobless when Majestic finished up, or I'd still be there now. In fact my son, daughter in law and 4 grandchildren are now living in my ex home in Skurvy Bay and I was there Jan of last year for a visit. Paul
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Just read this enjoyable thread from the start.
About ground staff saluting... at TN Lae for each DC6B departure the traffic/cargo staff handling the aircraft used to line up abeam of the cockpit. The Traffic Officer, with hat on, handling the docs used to salute the aircraft when it started to taxi.
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