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It's clear that these people are blind to the fact that it's not a day of celebration.
It's a day of REMEMBERANCE.
Decades ago, it was unthinkable that businesses would open on Christmas Day, Good Friday and Easter Sunday. Anzac Day allowed pubs and RSLs to open after the marches, but that was it. Then footy matches were promoted as battles between top ranking clubs on Anzac Day and the trickle become a flood with little respect for any of those days.
Qanas is just one of the myriad of businesses promoting their wares without any concern for decency on special days like Anzac Day, but being in the crowd doesn't excuse them one bit.
It's a day of REMEMBERANCE.
Decades ago, it was unthinkable that businesses would open on Christmas Day, Good Friday and Easter Sunday. Anzac Day allowed pubs and RSLs to open after the marches, but that was it. Then footy matches were promoted as battles between top ranking clubs on Anzac Day and the trickle become a flood with little respect for any of those days.
Qanas is just one of the myriad of businesses promoting their wares without any concern for decency on special days like Anzac Day, but being in the crowd doesn't excuse them one bit.
Is this standard form from a CEO from the Irish Republic who may be totally insensitive to the ANZAC Tradition... ??
Below is a short piece from the Irish Parliamentary web site about Ireland's contribution at Gallipoli.
Alien Role: take your bigotry and hatred elsewhere! I think you are the insensitive one around here.
GALLIPOLI
The stalemate on the Western Front prompted an alternative approach to defeating Germany. The capture of Constantinople, now Istanbul, would give a direct link to the Russian ally and a successful eastern front campaign could be undertaken. A British Navy attempt to sail up the Dardanelles on March 18 failed with the loss of several ships. Despite the advanced warning that this gave the Turks, the British and French attempted a land invasion on the 25th April. They went ashore at six locations but the Turkish defence held them close to the beaches. A second attempt was made on the 6th August at Suvla Bay but this also ground to a halt. The campaign was abandoned and last of the troops were withdrawn in January 1916. Churchill, who had proposed the campaign, had to resign from the Cabinet. He subsequently lost his seat in the House of Commons and had to wait until outbreak of the Second World War to return to a position of power.
The 1st Battalions of the Royal Dublin, Munster and Inniskilling Fusiliers took part in the landing on April 25th at Cape Helles which was a perfect defensive location with gun emplacements housed on steep slopes. The naval bombardment failed to neutralize the Turkish defences. The Royal Dublin Fusiliers and the Royal Munster Fusiliers were the first to disembark from the S.S. River Clyde and of the first 200 men to leave the ship, 149 were killed and 30 wounded immediately. The Dublins had 25 officers and 987 other ranks but only, one officer and 374 other ranks made it ashore. There were 637 casualties in the first 36 hours.
The Allies decided to launch a fresh attack against the Turks and chose Suvla Bay, 25 miles north of Cape Helles. The first Irish volunteer unit to go into battle was the 10th (Irish) Division which contained the new service battalions of the Irish regiments. As a result of administrative incompetence, the Division’s artillery had been sent to France and the men arrived without either maps or orders. The Division did not fight as a unit. There was a chronic water shortage and the soldiers ran out of ammunition and had to resort to throwing stones at the enemy. At least 3,411 serving with Irish battalions were killed or missing , 569 from the 1st Battalion Royal Dublin Fusiliers alone.
- See more at: Irish Soldiers in the First World War - Department of Taoiseach
The stalemate on the Western Front prompted an alternative approach to defeating Germany. The capture of Constantinople, now Istanbul, would give a direct link to the Russian ally and a successful eastern front campaign could be undertaken. A British Navy attempt to sail up the Dardanelles on March 18 failed with the loss of several ships. Despite the advanced warning that this gave the Turks, the British and French attempted a land invasion on the 25th April. They went ashore at six locations but the Turkish defence held them close to the beaches. A second attempt was made on the 6th August at Suvla Bay but this also ground to a halt. The campaign was abandoned and last of the troops were withdrawn in January 1916. Churchill, who had proposed the campaign, had to resign from the Cabinet. He subsequently lost his seat in the House of Commons and had to wait until outbreak of the Second World War to return to a position of power.
The 1st Battalions of the Royal Dublin, Munster and Inniskilling Fusiliers took part in the landing on April 25th at Cape Helles which was a perfect defensive location with gun emplacements housed on steep slopes. The naval bombardment failed to neutralize the Turkish defences. The Royal Dublin Fusiliers and the Royal Munster Fusiliers were the first to disembark from the S.S. River Clyde and of the first 200 men to leave the ship, 149 were killed and 30 wounded immediately. The Dublins had 25 officers and 987 other ranks but only, one officer and 374 other ranks made it ashore. There were 637 casualties in the first 36 hours.
The Allies decided to launch a fresh attack against the Turks and chose Suvla Bay, 25 miles north of Cape Helles. The first Irish volunteer unit to go into battle was the 10th (Irish) Division which contained the new service battalions of the Irish regiments. As a result of administrative incompetence, the Division’s artillery had been sent to France and the men arrived without either maps or orders. The Division did not fight as a unit. There was a chronic water shortage and the soldiers ran out of ammunition and had to resort to throwing stones at the enemy. At least 3,411 serving with Irish battalions were killed or missing , 569 from the 1st Battalion Royal Dublin Fusiliers alone.
- See more at: Irish Soldiers in the First World War - Department of Taoiseach
Yes, it was a dopey idea but when one sees a dopey idea, surely it's best to ignore it rather than comment and give it more oxygen? That said, is it any more insensitive than the 'raise a glass' campaign to flog more beer'?
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Ken,
ANY idea that forgets why Anzac Day exists is dumb, but if you ignore these idiots they KEEP coming up with dumb and insensitive ideas.
It's to do with the level of tolerance. People will do whatever they like until you or I say NO.
We shouldn't have to, but there is always someone out there thinking that decency does not apply to them.
ANY idea that forgets why Anzac Day exists is dumb, but if you ignore these idiots they KEEP coming up with dumb and insensitive ideas.
It's to do with the level of tolerance. People will do whatever they like until you or I say NO.
We shouldn't have to, but there is always someone out there thinking that decency does not apply to them.
Aero,
I cannot disagree with you. I'm afraid I don't tolerate fools or foolish ideas all that well. I find it best to ignore them but I understand what you say. Best we get back to Qantas and it's assorted ailments?
I cannot disagree with you. I'm afraid I don't tolerate fools or foolish ideas all that well. I find it best to ignore them but I understand what you say. Best we get back to Qantas and it's assorted ailments?
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Agree with griffin one - how many people are in marketing/social media/etc these days? It is just a growing department that doesn't deliver enough for what they are paid. I hope some of the 5000 included all those highly paid people in that empire in QCA........including the ones behind this failed effort
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Those suggesting this is from the Qantas marketing department are delusional.
When was the last time you saw an ad for Qantas.
The Qantas marketing department are up there with the Qantas aircraft procurement & Qantas Pilot recruitment department. Sitting in Manly McDonalds being served by Elvis!!
When was the last time you saw an ad for Qantas.
The Qantas marketing department are up there with the Qantas aircraft procurement & Qantas Pilot recruitment department. Sitting in Manly McDonalds being served by Elvis!!
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A sad end
QANTAS Plans to end Boeing 747 Service to Singapore by September 2014
Posted: 25 Apr 2014 01:20 AM PDT
Update at 0820GMT 25APR14
QANTAS is gradually ending Boeing 747-400 operations on flights to Singapore, based on latest schedule update. Affected routes as follow.
Brisbane – Singapore Airbus A330-300 aircraft replaces Boeing 747 from 13MAY14, 1 daily service
QF051 BNE1000 – 1610SIN 333 D
QF052 SIN1955 – 0520+1BNE 333 D
Sydney – Singapore Boeing 747-400 service, which currently operates 3-4 weekly (out of 14 weekly) service, ends on 29SEP14
QF081 SYD1025 – 1600SIN 333 D
QF005 SYD1545 – 2120SIN 333 D
QF082 SIN2020 – 0710+1SYD 333 D
QF006 SIN2325 – 1015+1SYD 333 D
Posted: 25 Apr 2014 01:20 AM PDT
Update at 0820GMT 25APR14
QANTAS is gradually ending Boeing 747-400 operations on flights to Singapore, based on latest schedule update. Affected routes as follow.
Brisbane – Singapore Airbus A330-300 aircraft replaces Boeing 747 from 13MAY14, 1 daily service
QF051 BNE1000 – 1610SIN 333 D
QF052 SIN1955 – 0520+1BNE 333 D
Sydney – Singapore Boeing 747-400 service, which currently operates 3-4 weekly (out of 14 weekly) service, ends on 29SEP14
QF081 SYD1025 – 1600SIN 333 D
QF005 SYD1545 – 2120SIN 333 D
QF082 SIN2020 – 0710+1SYD 333 D
QF006 SIN2325 – 1015+1SYD 333 D
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Nice handle sleeve of wizard, think you'll find Japan QF 21 service next to get the 744 chop,flying twins to destinations makes good business sense if you have the right twins too bad QF don't.
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Qantas stays on sidelines as Boeing orders jump
Heard something similar recently, that not only was QFi cashflow positive, but all QFi routes were cashflow positive. So according to SH, depreciation costs are holding International back.
If this is the case, why are older aircraft (which have lesser depreciation costs) being retired, and not newer aircraft?
Haven't management been banging on for years that our competitors have an advantage over us, in that they have accelerated depreciation schedules compared to Qantas? By SH's logic, wouldn't this have a negative impact on profitability?
Also, considering that Qantas own a considerable part of Jetstar's fleet, how much does the depreciation of Jetstar's aircraft contribute to the adverse depreciation costs of QFi?
Why is it that QF was willing to spend $130m to gain more 'transparency' between the profitability of International and Domestic, but apparently don't see the need to inform the market of things such as leasing costs between JQ and QF?
Qantas International chief executive Simon Hickey this month said he believed the international business could return to profitability with its current fleet, particular as its ageing 747s are retired.
"What we need to do is what we have been doing – to make sure we keep on driving our costs down and get our productivity right on the aircraft and that will get us to a position where we are profitable again and where we will be able to invest again in the future," he said.
Qantas International is cashflow positive but loss-making after its large depreciation charges. Mr Hickey said buying new aircraft to lower operating costs wouldn't necessarily be a financial panacea because of the capital cost and future depreciation issues.
"What we need to do is what we have been doing – to make sure we keep on driving our costs down and get our productivity right on the aircraft and that will get us to a position where we are profitable again and where we will be able to invest again in the future," he said.
Qantas International is cashflow positive but loss-making after its large depreciation charges. Mr Hickey said buying new aircraft to lower operating costs wouldn't necessarily be a financial panacea because of the capital cost and future depreciation issues.
If this is the case, why are older aircraft (which have lesser depreciation costs) being retired, and not newer aircraft?
Haven't management been banging on for years that our competitors have an advantage over us, in that they have accelerated depreciation schedules compared to Qantas? By SH's logic, wouldn't this have a negative impact on profitability?
Also, considering that Qantas own a considerable part of Jetstar's fleet, how much does the depreciation of Jetstar's aircraft contribute to the adverse depreciation costs of QFi?
Why is it that QF was willing to spend $130m to gain more 'transparency' between the profitability of International and Domestic, but apparently don't see the need to inform the market of things such as leasing costs between JQ and QF?
Heard it all before...
When JQ Int was just a rumour, a persistent one but being denied nonetheless, there was a hint that it would be 'gifted' four A330s from the QF fleet to get it started. Given that QF was manned for 14 A330s and the 747 'classics' were soon to be retired, Flt Ops managers were explaining that the A330s were making SOOO much money for QF, especially on the eastcoast-Perth runs, that they would never be just given away!
Well, you guessed it, the following happened:
- JQI became a reality,
- it was gifted four of QF's A330s,
- QF's pilots were assigned leave due to surpluses (as JQI hired other pilots),
- QF pilots' reduced flying stats were used to characterize 'legacy' inefficiencies, and
- 747 'classics' were used to fill the resultant gaps on the Perth runs.
Not too much later, when the QF Chief Pilot was queried at a Flt Ops 'roadshow' as to how any of these actions made sense for QF's profitability, the answer was something like:
"...well, the A330s carry only about 300 pax, but the classics carry over 400 so just think of the profits we can make using the classics!!"
When that answer was pursued with the next logical question:
"Then why don't we just get rid of all the A330s, keep the classics we have and buy more cheap classics if they're so efficient?!?"
.... there was an embarrassing and awkward silence, foot-hopping and throat-clearing. It was rare for CM to be so lost for words.
The same type of spin continues to inhabit and taint everything one reads in QF press and other correspondence. Engagement anyone?
Well, you guessed it, the following happened:
- JQI became a reality,
- it was gifted four of QF's A330s,
- QF's pilots were assigned leave due to surpluses (as JQI hired other pilots),
- QF pilots' reduced flying stats were used to characterize 'legacy' inefficiencies, and
- 747 'classics' were used to fill the resultant gaps on the Perth runs.
Not too much later, when the QF Chief Pilot was queried at a Flt Ops 'roadshow' as to how any of these actions made sense for QF's profitability, the answer was something like:
"...well, the A330s carry only about 300 pax, but the classics carry over 400 so just think of the profits we can make using the classics!!"
When that answer was pursued with the next logical question:
"Then why don't we just get rid of all the A330s, keep the classics we have and buy more cheap classics if they're so efficient?!?"
.... there was an embarrassing and awkward silence, foot-hopping and throat-clearing. It was rare for CM to be so lost for words.
The same type of spin continues to inhabit and taint everything one reads in QF press and other correspondence. Engagement anyone?
Sin -Syd
BA pulled off this route a year or two ago and replaced with B777-300. The B744 was just not profitable on this route, fuel, and crew costs and strong Aus dollar etc. etc.
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Here we go
Qantas staff await grim news on possible compulsory redundancies
"job swaps'' hmm, is that another way of saying QF to JQ, take it or leave it?
That line in the sand thing again.. for me it sounds more like the Jetstarisation of Q mainline..
Qantas staff await grim news on possible compulsory redundancies
In a message to staff before Easter, Qantas' human resources chief, Jon Scriven, said the airline would consider ''mitigation strategies like "job swaps'' for non-executive support roles once each area of the business completed a ''detailed reassessment and review''.
"job swaps'' hmm, is that another way of saying QF to JQ, take it or leave it?
In an update on what he has described as the ''great capacity face-off'', Macquarie Equities analyst Sam Dobson said one of the major changes in the domestic market had been planned additional Jetstar flights on Sydney and Melbourne routes in the June quarter.
''In addition, Jetstar seat growth in the September quarter has grown, which is presumably on the back of Qantas looking to maintain share in the domestic market, with the new Jetstar capacity a response to the additional Tiger capacity growth,'' he said in a note to clients.
Mr Dobson said the other change had been a reduction in scheduled capacity mostly by Qantas and Jetstar into and out of Perth, which reflected a ''more rational response to a slowing in resource-driven demand''.
The broker believes the market is ''too bearish'' on earnings expectations for Qantas' next financial year because the latest data suggests yields - or return on fares - will improve over the coming months.
Some analysts say Qantas will post an underlying loss of about $800 million this financial year amid stiff competition in the domestic market and on international routes.
my bold
''In addition, Jetstar seat growth in the September quarter has grown, which is presumably on the back of Qantas looking to maintain share in the domestic market, with the new Jetstar capacity a response to the additional Tiger capacity growth,'' he said in a note to clients.
Mr Dobson said the other change had been a reduction in scheduled capacity mostly by Qantas and Jetstar into and out of Perth, which reflected a ''more rational response to a slowing in resource-driven demand''.
The broker believes the market is ''too bearish'' on earnings expectations for Qantas' next financial year because the latest data suggests yields - or return on fares - will improve over the coming months.
Some analysts say Qantas will post an underlying loss of about $800 million this financial year amid stiff competition in the domestic market and on international routes.
my bold
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Have any of these massive 5000 job cuts actually occurred or was it just the usual scaremongering by the little fella, it all seems to have gone unusually quite of late
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Those suggesting this is from the Qantas marketing department are delusional.
When was the last time you saw an ad for Qantas.
When was the last time you saw an ad for Qantas.
Obviously had your head buried in the sand. Ive seen plenty across both TV and print in the last few days.... And then that small Modern Family Australia special (ie advertisment) that just aired in the US
Have any of these massive 5000 job cuts actually occurred or was it just the usual scaremongering by the little fella, it all seems to have gone unusually quite of late
AJ doesn't need to do any scaremongering, the reported financials and share price speak for themselves, let alone the airfare prices on offer in the marketplace
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nunc, not exactly but Liv has been doing some spin:
Qantas gets a boost from Modern Family special
Personally I would think a 25% increase in website traffic is a pretty poor return given the $s spent, but at the end of the day its actual bookings that count
Qantas gets a boost from Modern Family special
Personally I would think a 25% increase in website traffic is a pretty poor return given the $s spent, but at the end of the day its actual bookings that count