Air Niugini ATR Crash in Madang
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Air Niugini ATR Crash in Madang
Just heard from a friend that one of Air Niugini's ATRs has crashed in Madang?
The 2 pilots got out the escape hatch and have been taken to hospital.
The 2 pilots got out the escape hatch and have been taken to hospital.
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Rumour has it in the creek at the 07 end of the runway, rejected takeoff? As above, apparently all crew (3) got out okay, but the aircraft was still burning some hours after the incident! Great to hear that at this point, it appears no one is badly hurt.
Photo here...
Air Niugini ATR-42 goes into river after aborted takeoff, Madang, PNG
And a few more in this report from Aviation Safety Net:
Air Niugini ATR-42 goes into river after aborted takeoff, Madang, PNG
Must be that time of the month for runway excursions
here is a Avsafety report and phots on a Bae-146 on Balesin Is Philippines:
SkyJet BAe-146 suffers runway excursion on landing at Balesin Airstrip, Philippines
Sundy review-Planetalking puts an interesting spin on high wing water evacs in regards to the Madang prang
:
PNG aircrash puts focus on high wing evacuations
Air Niugini ATR-42 goes into river after aborted takeoff, Madang, PNG
And a few more in this report from Aviation Safety Net:
Air Niugini ATR-42 goes into river after aborted takeoff, Madang, PNG
Must be that time of the month for runway excursions
here is a Avsafety report and phots on a Bae-146 on Balesin Is Philippines:SkyJet BAe-146 suffers runway excursion on landing at Balesin Airstrip, Philippines
Sundy review-Planetalking puts an interesting spin on high wing water evacs in regards to the Madang prang
:PNG aircrash puts focus on high wing evacuations
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Other than a short swim in the creek meaning wet clothes, loss of a few nav bags contents, all 3 crew are unharmed and recovering in Port Moresby hotel(s)
That all that matters.
That all that matters.
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I wonder if there were crocs in the creek?
Always wondered about that every time approaching cairns thinking about the joy of surviving the aircraft landing short landing south and ending up in the Barron river trying to swim back to the bank with crocs possibly nearby.
I think I think too much...
Always wondered about that every time approaching cairns thinking about the joy of surviving the aircraft landing short landing south and ending up in the Barron river trying to swim back to the bank with crocs possibly nearby.
I think I think too much...
Not much threat from crocs in PNG creeks. The locals are smart enough to convert them to handbags. The surviving crocs are those smart enough to avoid the locals.
A far greater bio-hazard would be from blind mullets.
A far greater bio-hazard would be from blind mullets.
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Confirmation: Air Niugini Cargo plane crashed
Air Niugini Cargo plane has been crashed in Madan PNG. The news site. PNG News Today
confirmed that the plane has been crashed but the three crew members survived.
confirmed that the plane has been crashed but the three crew members survived.
With the state of the right engine it looks like he made the correct decision to abort even though he ended up in the river. I would not like to have taken that problem into the air.
Reminds me of a HS748 incident at Stansted in 1998 where the Captain rejected the take off after V1 but would probably not be alive if he'd continued.
Reminds me of a HS748 incident at Stansted in 1998 where the Captain rejected the take off after V1 but would probably not be alive if he'd continued.
At this stage no-one has said whether that nasty looking mess was due to post-impact fire or not. However looking at the singed grass behind the aircraft it sure looks as if the wing was burning before it came to rest.
Agree, there are times when V1 becomes meaningless, and a bloody great explosion would certainly be up there as a reason to put it back on the ground regardless. It looks more like it was shot down than fell down!
Agree, there are times when V1 becomes meaningless, and a bloody great explosion would certainly be up there as a reason to put it back on the ground regardless. It looks more like it was shot down than fell down!
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Ben Sandilands, in this article refers to the flight deck roof top hatch in the ATR being used as an emergency exit for ditchings. The article also refers to a similar hatch in the DH8 (does the -400 have one?).
As best I can recall from my DH8 EPs days, some 13 years ago, the flight deck hatch wasn't considered an "emergency exit", more for the evacuation of tech crew if the flight deck door was jammed/blocked shut.
I wonder if things have changed?
As best I can recall from my DH8 EPs days, some 13 years ago, the flight deck hatch wasn't considered an "emergency exit", more for the evacuation of tech crew if the flight deck door was jammed/blocked shut.
I wonder if things have changed?
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The article also refers to a similar hatch in the DH8 (does the -400 have one?)
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Ben's got it wrong - the escape hatch in the ATR isn't designed for passengers. It is within the cockpit - one has to throw out the rope and climb up 'stairs' on the side of the electrical racks. The cockpit is separated from the cabin by two locked doors.
In the freight world, surely this hatch would have been the quickest option for the crew to escape fire, even on 'land'. The other emergency exits are blocked by the freight and netting, the only other exit being the cargo door which would take a little while to open (an eternity during a fire!).
In case sierra's image a few posts above doesn't work for you (it doesn't on my mac devices), hopefully this will (from the avherald website):
In the freight world, surely this hatch would have been the quickest option for the crew to escape fire, even on 'land'. The other emergency exits are blocked by the freight and netting, the only other exit being the cargo door which would take a little while to open (an eternity during a fire!).
In case sierra's image a few posts above doesn't work for you (it doesn't on my mac devices), hopefully this will (from the avherald website):
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