QF near miss over Great Australian Bight
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Everything to do with aviation is grossly overrated. The insular mentality coupled with the sense of undeserved self importance, intransigence and utter anal retentiveness best describe Aussie professionals( if you are generous to call them that ). In EK, we have lots of such pieces of work who think the world of themselves.
The whole aviation set up in 'straya is a massive joke. The whinging, the whining, belly aching and propensity to be drama queens. The e problems we encounter with ATC, Airport equipments and facilities in BNE, PER, SYD and MEL should not be around in major international airports.
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The whole aviation set up in 'straya is a massive joke. The whinging, the whining, belly aching and propensity to be drama queens. The e problems we encounter with ATC, Airport equipments and facilities in BNE, PER, SYD and MEL should not be around in major international airports.
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yes it's tiring but it's up to the person involved to make the right decision.
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Everything to do with aviation is grossly overrated. The insular mentality coupled with the sense of undeserved self importance, intransigence and utter anal retentiveness best describe Aussie professionals( if you are generous to call them that ). In EK, we have lots of such pieces of work who think the world of themselves.
The whole aviation set up in 'straya is a massive joke. The whinging, the whining, belly aching and propensity to be drama queens. The e problems we encounter with ATC, Airport equipments and facilities in BNE, PER, SYD and MEL should not be around in major international airports.
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The whole aviation set up in 'straya is a massive joke. The whinging, the whining, belly aching and propensity to be drama queens. The e problems we encounter with ATC, Airport equipments and facilities in BNE, PER, SYD and MEL should not be around in major international airports.
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Sadly, you are spot on
Wy not? Do ATC have duty limitations in other parts of the world? In my mind your job is just as safety critical as mine and apart from the fact that you're not at 8000ft all day I can see no reason why the duty limitations shouldn't be the same.
FRMS in place.
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Ahhh... Australian ATC...
It's probably worth repeating the hoary old tale of the United pilot departing Sydney on his last flight before retirement who took the time to thank Sydney ATC and telling them that they were "...the second best ATC in the world".
The ATCO thanked him for his kind words and after a brief pause, asked: "Just out of interest, who's the best?", to which the American replied: "The rest of the world."
Australian ATC - at least in the opinion of this one Australian pilot, who spent the first 20 years of his flying career flying mostly within Australia and the second 20 years flying mostly on international routes all over the world (that included frequent trips to Australia) - is the only air traffic system that seems to consider itself the end user and not the aeroplanes it really thinks it 'controls' rather than provides a service to. All too often, their attitude seemed to me to be that the whole system would operate far more to their liking if it wasn't messed up by those annoying aeroplanes that cluttered up their airspace.
Sorry gents and ladies of Australian ATC, but I can assure you, that is how you are perceived by the vast majority of the non-Australian pilots with whom I flew.
It's probably worth repeating the hoary old tale of the United pilot departing Sydney on his last flight before retirement who took the time to thank Sydney ATC and telling them that they were "...the second best ATC in the world".
The ATCO thanked him for his kind words and after a brief pause, asked: "Just out of interest, who's the best?", to which the American replied: "The rest of the world."
Australian ATC - at least in the opinion of this one Australian pilot, who spent the first 20 years of his flying career flying mostly within Australia and the second 20 years flying mostly on international routes all over the world (that included frequent trips to Australia) - is the only air traffic system that seems to consider itself the end user and not the aeroplanes it really thinks it 'controls' rather than provides a service to. All too often, their attitude seemed to me to be that the whole system would operate far more to their liking if it wasn't messed up by those annoying aeroplanes that cluttered up their airspace.
Sorry gents and ladies of Australian ATC, but I can assure you, that is how you are perceived by the vast majority of the non-Australian pilots with whom I flew.
Australian ATC - at least in the opinion of this one Australian pilot, who spent the first 20 years of his flying career flying mostly within Australia and the second 20 years flying mostly on international routes all over the world (that included frequent trips to Australia) - is the only air traffic system that seems to consider itself the end user and not the aeroplanes it really thinks it 'controls' rather than provides a service to. All too often, their attitude seemed to me to be that the whole system would operate far more to their liking if it wasn't messed up by those annoying aeroplanes that cluttered up their airspace.
Sorry gents and ladies of Australian ATC, but I can assure you, that is how you are perceived by the vast majority of the non-Australian pilots with whom I flew.
Sorry gents and ladies of Australian ATC, but I can assure you, that is how you are perceived by the vast majority of the non-Australian pilots with whom I flew.
Here is the problem. Australian atcs are not atcs. They don't control anything. They hamstrung by 50 million rules created by the smartest guy in the room. Things like 'separation assurance' are not seen any where else in the world. You can not deviate in any way from the rules even if it makes absolutely no sense. You can not use your judgement, you are there to strictly abide by MATS.
Most of the guys working there know no different. They were created by the system.
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It's probably best to let our pilot friends vent 
it's is obviously the cream of the pilot crop that are giving us their valued opinion. When you boys are capable of inputting correct takeoff weights & flex temps for your departures, (EK) I may listen to your opinion, in the meantime
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it's is obviously the cream of the pilot crop that are giving us their valued opinion. When you boys are capable of inputting correct takeoff weights & flex temps for your departures, (EK) I may listen to your opinion, in the meantimeSmile & wave
smile & wave..........
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Cost cutting Tank, I haven't been on a famil flight for around 10 years. It used to be part of the ATC course. The smartest men in the room deem it unnecessary now. Conversely, I can't remember the last time I saw bars in the ops room.