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Cobham the new Qantas?

Old 18th Sep 2013, 13:08
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Cobham the new Qantas?

First it's Canberra, now its Tazzie..

Cobham to be the next new Qantas until they replace them with another.

I get it.

But it just sucks that it has to happen to what was once a great industry.

It's a shame.
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Old 18th Sep 2013, 13:55
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Once?
Mate, nothin wrong with Cobham per cest
...... but I guess you don't remember Tatars, when the dinosaurs ruled the land, QANTAS was never domestic then anyway, and they eventually boned the Ausair blokes for a slice of the pie.
And on a similar note, Pornstar was only Nopulse once too, right

No point in getting misty-eyed if you remember the joint's odd-ball history
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Old 18th Sep 2013, 22:54
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From memory, Cobham (national Jet) were in Canberra years ago (around 15?)as well as rocky, Mackay, brisbane, Cairns, Darwin, Perth etc etc.
So whats new?
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 00:01
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That's right RENURPP, 15-20 years ago... National Jet I think was started by Jimmy-Bow ties' wife when they decided to "farm-out" some regional work, if I remember correctly. (She had her Baron parked in the hangars between what was Ansett Freight apron and their Engineering hangar) I do know that 4 Corners-ABC were silenced for many years over a program they had over it and some foreign pilots.
No-Pulse continued the downward trend when QF bought them out, afraid that Ansett would get their hands on them and expand their reach, then they used that vehicle (excuse the McGowan pun) in a rushed attempt to start a LCC named Pornstar, when they got wind of Spirit Airlines starting out of Avalon. Pornstar had their Media launch the day before Spirits!
... it goes on, suffice to say it may be Cobham now, then Network, then...
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 00:36
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Wedcue.........and the problem with cobham doing QFs regional work is......?
What exactly is so bad for the industry in this decision.....is Cobham not worthy?
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 01:12
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Is the real Qantas withdrawing from Tasmania ?
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 01:35
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Originally Posted by chocks away
National Jet I think was started by Jimmy-Bow ties' wife
Geez, I didn't know Jimmie Bow Tie was married to Warren Seymour!
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QantasLink to introduce luxury flights into Hobart | Life and Lifestyle | Lifestyle and Living | | The Mercury

QANTASLINK will offer an enhanced passenger experience for customers in and out of Tasmania next year, with the airline announcing upgraded Boeing 717 jets on all flights between Hobart and the mainland.

QantasLink executive manager John Gissing said the 110-seat jets, which will be based in Hobart and include a business and economy sections and in-flight entertainment for all passengers, will be used on Hobart-Sydney and Hobart-Melbourne flights from the middle of next year.

Mr Gissing said the jets would have market-leading seats, premium food and drinks and exceptional on-board service.

"We will also provide individual iPads for in-flight entertainment for all customers," he said.

"The continued investment in our fleet shows the commitment and confidence we have in the Australian domestic market and in particular to Tasmania."

The upgraded QantasLink Boeing 717 aircraft will be operated by Adelaide-based Cobham Aviation Services Australia.

Mr Gissing said Cobham would soon advertise for about 30 cabin crew and 15 pilots, all to be based in Hobart.

"Having these aircraft based in Hobart is great news for Tasmania," he said.

QantasLink is upgrading five B717s that will be introduced to the domestic fleet next year, initially on flights out of Canberra.
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 01:39
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.is Cobham not worthy
No. not when they fly Qlink branded aircraft...but are NOT QLink. Jetconnnect ring any bells?
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 01:52
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Careful Astroboy, better holster that bitter attitude. We all fly in the same sky, so play nice boys and girls.

Regarding the parallels you're drawing between Cobham/QLink and Jetconnect/Qantas isn't entirely parallel so to speak. The former is a contractor, the latter is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Qantas Group.

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Old 19th Sep 2013, 01:52
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National Jet started with the Moomba Basin contract they took from Lloyd. Something to do with Sherrard.... Least that's how I remember it
Pulse and Virgin were days away from falling in a hole before the Kiwoks finally killed the AA dog with fleas, blaming everyone but themselves
Pulse's 71s went to a Star livery, after other attempts at removing the cocky from the tail, then went to a NJS crewing company for the Rat fellows.

...... This was never a fluffy industry full of goodness and light.... Unless you worked for the big 2 before the war....and they don't exist anymore
It's caos out there, and that's the bed you young blokes made..... Thanks, but don't whinge about it 'cause its probably all your fault
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 01:52
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CC, yes Warren was the founder & CEO.
Anymore and I encroach on why QF legal silenced ABC's 4 Corners.

"Play-on is the call"
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 01:52
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Cobham/NJS have been flying QantasLink for as long as Sunnies & Eastern's have and have a 20+ year commercial relationship with QF. Not sure why this makes them unworthy?
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 02:00
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Not unworthy just another step in the engagement of mainline. Everyone is expanding but us. That is the reality and we just have to suck it. Would be nice if the premium airline got premium cabin product. I'm sure all the pax on mainline 737s would like an Ipad or a like instead of a $%^&*&%ty little screen on the roof. I know the newer 737s screens.
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 02:13
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Good call Fuel Off
This sounds like the 'they're taking our flying' argument from the protected 2, when the Bloodstock 72 appeared.
Eastern and Sunnys don't own the flying, and, in my view, Qlink is just a name given to any ol' Q regional aircraft Alan's mob owns
I could quote many similar setups worldwide. its like fleas arguing about who owns the dog.
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 03:36
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What a reaction to the debacle of replacing the 737 that overnighted in Hobart, less than a year ago, with an overnighting dash 8.
The premium pax have left in droves to fly Virgin.
The smartest guys in the room strike again.
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 03:45
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Funny how little attention /credence paid to Network.
12 jets, rumoured to be expanding to 17, contracts that do/will required A320 size aircraft and all 100% owned by QF.
Oh and I believe getting their RPT approval by years end.
Watch that space.....
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 04:55
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airdualbleedfault Funny how little attention /credence paid to Network.
Network's aircraft will be painted in Qantaslink colours and become the jet operation "specialist" of Qantaslink. Their A320 fleet will expand and take on more RPT schedules. Eventually Network will take over some of the B717's flying. QantasLink will consolidate their dash 8 operation in Perth and moving their resources back to the east coast where it is better suited and the crew utilised more efficiently.
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 05:03
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Airdualbleed,

I stated this fact @ 9 months ago now, can't be bothered looking through my archives.

Network will be the growth vehicle for QF going forward, mark my words!
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 05:29
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Well they certainly are at the moment Norma, 2 a/c to (possible) 17 in 2 1/2 years is some growth
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