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When is the next cull at QF Engineering?

Old 29th Aug 2013, 09:42
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When is the next cull at QF Engineering?

Now that the non-event of the $6M profit has been announced as well as the flight re-shuffle, when is the next round of blood letting to begin?

Rumours are already rife that 200 will go in November, no doubt to coincide with the new schedule.

Uncle Chandra and his band of merry men are willing to take as much work from Australia as Tony and Chris will let him.

744 work will shift from SYD to BNE and 330s will be done wherever and whenever they land.

CAT A licencing is about to pick up and overtake all other training, tug drivers are also willing to hop on and fix an aircraft, because as QF sees them, most of them already have 2 years or more in the industry.
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Old 29th Aug 2013, 11:28
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Surely Avalon must be close to the end game now .
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Old 30th Aug 2013, 11:13
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Maybe the sale of QDS is the beginning of the end for Engineering?

Just one area of many to be broken up for sale to help bring the overall bottom line back to the black.

This possibly accounts for some of the numbers of engineers to leave the business.
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Old 30th Aug 2013, 12:56
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It will happen fairly quickly if people keep cutting corners to make things work. It sends a very clear message - we don't need as many of you.
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Old 30th Aug 2013, 23:59
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Angry

It seems no matter what we do to reduce ground time it's never enough. A lean engine change was carried out under the guidance of Chandra's minister for everything, in about 10 hours. Once the bugs are ironed out it will probably be shipped off to LA like the 380 A Checks.
I see more pain to come!
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Old 5th Sep 2013, 07:49
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The Sick Leave sh&* fight has begun at Avalon the end is near .
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Old 5th Sep 2013, 11:47
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It will happen fairly quickly if people keep cutting corners to make things work.
Exactly. The amount of people signing out of cat these days is sickening.
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 03:29
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Cat A licenced guys notified today of being successful.

Training starts in October.
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 04:47
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Southern Cross radio news talking about the "imminent closure of Avalon with considerable job losses"
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 04:58
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Read more: Qantas to review role of 300 engineers at Avalon


Victoria's dwindling aircraft engineering industry is set to shrink further, with Qantas announcing it will "review" the work done by 300 remaining engineers, maintenance staff and contractors at Avalon.

The review will likely lead to most of Avalon's engineers being made redundant.

It follows an earlier round of job losses at Avalon last year.
And it also comes after the airline's chief executive said last year that all of its heavy maintenance would be done in one facility, likely Brisbane, which is receiving a $30 million upgrade this year.

The airline on Tuesday morning issued a statement from its domestic chief executive officer, Lyell Strambi, to say the Avalon maintenance facility has no scheduled work from next March, for a period of five months.
"In fact, there will be no scheduled maintenance for the equivalent of five months each year for the next four years, starting in March 2014," Mr Strambi said.

The company will now review the future of heavy maintenance at Avalon – a process all but certain to lead to sackings and work reductions. The review would be completed by the end of next month, Mr Strambi said.
State Labor opposition leader Daniel Andrews said that Premier Denis Napthine had not done enough to keep Qantas heavy maintenance work in Victoria. "In fact despite massive job losses Denis Napthine refuses to detail a comprehensive jobs plan," Mr Andrews said.

Dr Napthine's office referred queries on the jobs review by Qantas to aviation minister Gordon Rich-Phillips.

A spokesman for Mr Rich-Phillips said that the announcement was a reminder of how important the securing last month of the Qantas group’s 787 base for Victoria had been, because the airline’s 747s were being phased out.

The premier last month declined to say how much public money would be handed to Qantas to help it expand that 787 training centre.
On the possible job losses at Avalon the government would, Mr Rich-Phillips’ spokesman said, ‘‘work with Qantas through the review as it looks at options’’.

The Australian Workers' Union issued a statement on Tuesday morning saying it was alarmed that the Qantas review of heavy maintenance operations at Avalon was "code for closure and another move towards offshoring".

The union's state secretary, Ben Davis, said the future of Avalon looked bleak for the 300 maintenance engineers there.
"We know from experience that when Qantas does a review, jobs go," he said.
Qantas last year shut its heavy maintenance base at Melbourne Airport in Tullamarine.
The lay-offs at Avalon, which Qantas has long flagged, are the result of new generation aircraft requiring significantly less servicing than older planes.
But unions have also argued that the airline is seeking to drive down maintenance wages by sending what work it can overseas or to outsourced repair firms.
Qantas conducts heavy maintenance on its fleet of Boeing 747 aircraft in Avalon, employing 59 Qantas employees and approximately 253 contractors.

A decade ago, Qantas had 36 Boeing 747 aircraft in its fleet; today there are 15. In three years, this will reduce further to just 10.
Qantas and Jetstar Group recently announced the creation of up to 100 new jobs with the establishment of maintenance and training facilities in Melbourne for Jetstar as the airline prepares to take delivery of Boeing 787 aircraft.

Steve Purvinas, the federal secretary of the Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association, said that Qantas had a reduced number of 747 aircraft in their fleet. "[They] won't provide 12 months worth of work at Avalon," he said. Mr Purvinas said he trusted Qantas to "conduct a genuine review. And it will be our job as a union to offer flexible work practices that will make it cost effective for the airline to find more work to fill in the white space at Avalon."


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Old 17th Sep 2013, 05:18
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ALAEA SP trusted Qantas since when .
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Long Bay Mauler - Nothing officially been announced about the "A" cert candidates yet?? It was meant to happen on Friday!
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 06:22
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We really need to jump on the Bob Katter band wagon and get this bill in so that aircraft operating in domestic routes must have 80% of the maintenance done in Australia. Hopefully it will secure more 787 and a330 work in Australia for us LAME's and AME's.
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 10:57
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Someone answer me this. Why is Katters bill focused on Qantas, with nearly all of its maintenance on shore, when Virgin has 100% of its maintenance off shore? Shouldn't it praise Qantas for being the role model for all airlines in Australia to aspire too?! Virgin, Skywest, Tiger all off shore, majority of Jetstar offshore, but they still have some heavy work in Newcastle, and has just done a deal to build a maintenance base at Tulla.
So under his bill Qantas will be a monopoly on domestic routes?
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 14:01
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Well I guess this question just got answered, bye bye Avalon.
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 16:00
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I know it's probably the media, but I see its quoted as the Qanatas and Jetstar Group....how long to go until its just the Jetstar Group?
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 19:06
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I see its quoted as the Qanatas and Jetstar Group....how long to go until it's just the Jetstar Group?
Yeah, bit by bit and another 300 Geelong families feeling the heat.




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Old 17th Sep 2013, 23:12
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Katter's Bill is not about Qantas. It applies to all airlines which means Virgin would have to bring work onshore. The ALP and Coalition did not support it though.
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 23:37
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I intensly dislike the deliberate, vicious, evil, disgusting and calculated cruelty on the part of Qantas, its Board and its management in relation to "reviewing" Avalon operations and foreshadowing closure as part of the announcement.

This is designed to maximise fear, anguish, stress and depression in the Avalon workforce and their families.

As I have repeatedly explained, when downsizing is necessary, as it sometimes is, a competent manager either does it "quick and dirty" as in a surprise Friday morning announcement not to turn up on Monday, or you do it "slow and clean" with lots of communication and at least a Six month time horizon to allow people to get used to the idea and make alternative plans.

The Qantas approach - a "six week review" is a rotten alternative, being "slow and dirty" and only a bunch of sadistic incompetents would attempt such a thing.

I hope Qantas overseas maintenance program comes back and bites their management and shareholders hard on the backside, hopefully without killing customers and staff.

One more reason never to fly Qantas - the evil airline..
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