When is the next cull at QF Engineering?

[Ngineer]

I agree, just a thought to try keep some options open.

[Romulus]

Not just an Australian/Qantas issue

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[Pimp Daddy]

Ngineer - the guys from the subsidiaries who have been made redundant probably should get first go to return to their jobs dontcha think?

[Clipped]

It is interesting, reading elsewhere, the future projections of growth for aviation. The number of airliners needed to meet this demand, especially in the Asia/Pacific region, has Boeing and Airbus salesman salivating.

How is it we do not have the business acumen to be ready for this wave? Are we gonna miss the boat? In Q's case, dodge the traffic on the freeway and miss the action? Winding down heavy maintenance, line maintenance, outsource component/engine maintenance and supply, reduced apprentice intakes and few training centres - our industry's future doesn't look so bright.

Despite what airline exec's and airliner salesman tell you, someone has to maintain these planes.

Hang on. Since it's just a numbers game, is it about getting a LAME for $40/hr, Cat A's for $25/hr and so on? Is the landscape here just being realigned using our Asian neighbours as the new metric?

[Ngineer]

Ngineer - the guys from the subsidiaries who have been made redundant probably should get first go to return to their jobs dontcha think?

Yep, never stated otherwise. (If you can fill out a job application correctly, that is).

[rivet head]

Gone

Just heard on the grapevine, LMCE boss RP .gone.

[CoolB1Banana]

There are still half a dozen or so managers to go at RPs level so that wouldn't surprise me.

So the "criteria" has been tabled at the consultation meeting.
When do members actually get to see it?

[ALAEA Fed Sec]

We aren't distributing the rubbish, the company are. They only gave us the Sydney Domestic version.

[Redstone]

I suspect any "criteria" will just be last times list that has been sitting in a drawer somewhere.

[CoolB1Banana]

The criteria being circulated by ops managers is different to last time but the basic intent remains. As I've said before, some who think having a 738, 330 or 380 will keep them safe may be in for a shock.

The company seems inclined to push on with the process. Does anyone know if there is a date they want people out the door by?

The union are obviously trying to slow the process as much as possible but I tend to think it is just delaying the inevitable - they will get their numbers eventually. Most guys I talk to, whether they feel at risk or not, just want it to be over ASAP. If I'm to be made redundant I'd rather the process happen as quickly as possible, certainly before they cap redundancy pay outs.

[ALAEA Fed Sec]

The ALAEA have received countless pieces of corro from members. The only people who appear to be calling for the process to be done and dusted quickly are the blokes who have nothing to worry about. Anyone who is at risk wants no stone left unturned to find jobs.


To put things in perspective. Qantas are rolling about 20 changes into one process that they wanted completed after four meetings. Any one of the changes would normally take approximately 10 meetings, possibly with the assistance of fair work Australia. Some of the changes they are rolling into this include -

• Killing all 738 E checks.
• Creating new A checks that occur less regularly and are smaller checks.
• Creating a new HV1 check that is transferring wrok from tarmacs to heavy.
• culling rovers in Sydney from an average of 6 to and average of 1.
• Taking all towing from Sydney tarmacs and having it done by base with an 8 man crew who stop work at 6 pm.
• Adelaide roster change.
• Brisbane roster change.
• Removing work due to aircraft retirements.
• Transferring work to LAX.
• Removing the Sydney leave burn program.
• Changing 744 A check content.
• Extending 738 check 2's from 36 hours to 48 hours.
• Reducing the number of Senior LAMEs and making crews bigger.
• Countless other changes hidden in their fabricated and often false consultation documents.

The plan is simple. Flood the union with changes and then pretend that consultation has been extensive with the union wasting time. In their new plans they don't even have staff allocated to depart A380 aircraft.


Anyone who wants the ALAEA to sit back, sip tea and munch on iced vovos with management as they rush through change may be in the wrong union. We will challenge things we know will not work to protect every job.

[Collando]

Avalon Redundancies

First Qantas CRs at Avalon beginning end of next week. 30% of staff only redeployed. The only criteria for redeployment depended on which licences held. No other factors considered ! Qantas management blame the ALAEA, and like for like criteria for job swaps. Have seen someone turned down for consideration to go to Brisbane due to having too many licences? Go figure. Most of the oldest serving who are taking VR and getting the biggest packages allowed to stay till June to help with decommissioning, while others being bundled out in a few weeks. Once again no fair process around this. Not sure if the Alaea aware of this, or is it all a forgone conclusion. Certainly no stalling here.

[Alexfrench75]

Meanwhile, Qantaslink has seen substantial growth across the network. Additional engineering capacity has been put on with plenty of training being given out to try and catch up with demand.

Yet the ALAEA Fed Sec Mr Steve Pervinis remains remarkably silent on an EBA which expired in 2009. Clearly this is not a union for the industry but a Qantas mainline collective fighting for the way things were 15 years ago. Are you aware Mr ALAEA Fed Sec that your best buddy Mick Reegan has single handedly shown every single new Qlink employee that the ALAEA is a parasitic organisation that has become almost identical to CASA with regard to its relationship with the people it's supposed to look out for?

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

[Jet-A-One]

EOI extended another week now including the option of BNE Line. Plus "I only want to be considered for my current position", I assume this is for the terminal guys that would rather take a package than transfer to the hangars?

[Cactusjack]

Bring back Collin.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/CairnsAirpor...er_for_NQA.pdf

At least he didn't support the notion of sack all the staff to save money.

[ALAEA Fed Sec]

It looks like Ian Oldmeadow has moved from reader to contributor.

[AEROMEDIC]

Meanwhile, Qantaslink has seen substantial growth across the network. Additional engineering capacity has been put on with plenty of training being given out to try and catch up with demand.

If you call replacing Qanas services with Qanaslink "growth". Hobart, for example, as seen such a situation. Pretending to offer Qantas services and then swap to Qantaslink is plain dumb. The customers know what's going on and are voting with their feet to fly Virgin. Naturally this will compound the problem and serves nicely to assist management in extracting themselves from "non profitable routes".

[buttmonkey1]

EOI extended another week now including the option of BNE Line.


I didn't see that option on the survey monkey,
is anyone selecting relocation there.
something like 4 b2 and 2 b1 spots up for grabs, apparently.

[griffin one]

I only want to be considered for my current position and f$&k u if you think I'm going to even reply to your email.
What a joke this selection criteria is so many holes.

This is only phase 1 more to come post June

[CoolB1Banana]

Does anyone have any idea how the years of service component of their "criteria" is actually calculated? 20% of what?