When is the next cull at QF Engineering?
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Romulus the cost of ongoing whitespace is expensive. In the Avalon case, we revamped their maintenance program taking aircraft they could not fit in Brisbane and filled all that whitespace. On top of that we offered 3 months leave without pay in 2014 for each employee just in case their was an issue.
I better go have a chat with Truss. He has obviously been given an i-pad.
I better go have a chat with Truss. He has obviously been given an i-pad.
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"better go have a word..."
What - is he your rear neighbor, just have a chat over the back fence. Give the name dropping a rest eh!
Questions :1- is it not obvious by now that the world has changed and the old days are gone and many many traditional jobs will disappear either overseas or ...just disappear and there is no union, petition, protest, peace march or political ally that will change that fact?
2- can anyone still alive remember the last time a QF employee from any section of the business ever posted something positive about their life?
Honestly....enough
What - is he your rear neighbor, just have a chat over the back fence. Give the name dropping a rest eh!
Questions :1- is it not obvious by now that the world has changed and the old days are gone and many many traditional jobs will disappear either overseas or ...just disappear and there is no union, petition, protest, peace march or political ally that will change that fact?
2- can anyone still alive remember the last time a QF employee from any section of the business ever posted something positive about their life?
Honestly....enough
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QANTAS' decision to send Avalon maintenance jobs offshore adds insult to injury, the AWU has said.
Australian Workers' Union Victoria Secretary Ben Davis said Qantas had gone back on their assurance that the 300 jobs would go to Brisbane.
What ! assurance what rubbish
complete bull##%t 
Australian Workers' Union Victoria Secretary Ben Davis said Qantas had gone back on their assurance that the 300 jobs would go to Brisbane.
What ! assurance what rubbish
complete bull##%t
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Should Qantas become a little anxious about this situation, we grab the management by the balls and squeeze, hard. We make it as difficult as possible to switch to a new outsourcing supplier. We ensure that any attempt to remove us is going to be career suicide for our Qantas management sponsor, we can do this by selective leaking to the media about the real costs of our services. If we are a teeny bit lucky, we also have a **** file on the Qantas management sponsor, maybe they liked underage chinese girls or been a bit free with the expense account? We know all about that and file it. We remind Qantas that as they have no technical expertise in aircraft maintenance any more, they will have to bear the costs of re-establishing technical expertise before they are even capable of assessing another supplier.
Of course once they worked out what we had done to them, they had the balls to hire a whole new technical team and gradually pry themselves free of our clutches. Pity that Qantas doesn't have the balls.
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Truss has no idea,not only 747 going off shore ,380,737 and 767 getting offshore too,look at the latest maint plan.jetstar 320 is offshore too.50% of maint are offshore including engines and components.
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ALAEA FedSec, the above post is a pertinent question. Frankly I'm sick of nervous legacy LAMEs pumping me for info. What are you hearing that you can reveal without jeopardizing your sources?
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Where to next?
a half decent management would communicate it to all, perhaps work together, novel idea, lol.
I think get the non union ops managers in place, get rid of the crew pandering, o/t padding dmm,
all clear for the full mod and use the cat a boys and girls.
Lots of eoi's in from the dmm down, they know their day is done. don't want
to be a part of it. plenty like you said, a year older and a year more tired.
That **** for brains in the fnq should be going too.
a half decent management would communicate it to all, perhaps work together, novel idea, lol.
I think get the non union ops managers in place, get rid of the crew pandering, o/t padding dmm,
all clear for the full mod and use the cat a boys and girls.
Lots of eoi's in from the dmm down, they know their day is done. don't want
to be a part of it. plenty like you said, a year older and a year more tired.
That **** for brains in the fnq should be going too.
There is no point in trying to talk to CASA, they won't intervene in anything Qantas does.
The Government doesn't care.
The ATSB under its present management will simply blame the pilot should an accident occur and cover up any evidence to the contrary with the willing support of the Govenrment and CASA ask Dominic James about what they did to him.
What happens next is a deterioration in airline safety to African standards ( probably being rude to Africans) I think about Four or five smoking holes in the ground might encourage a few generally moronic Australians to ask questions.
Alternatively a crash into one of the eastern seaboard CBD's might do it.
I don't believe there are many politicians in government who have any respect at all for the rule of law anymore, they are too interested in feathering their own nests.
The Government doesn't care.
The ATSB under its present management will simply blame the pilot should an accident occur and cover up any evidence to the contrary with the willing support of the Govenrment and CASA ask Dominic James about what they did to him.
What happens next is a deterioration in airline safety to African standards ( probably being rude to Africans) I think about Four or five smoking holes in the ground might encourage a few generally moronic Australians to ask questions.
Alternatively a crash into one of the eastern seaboard CBD's might do it.
I don't believe there are many politicians in government who have any respect at all for the rule of law anymore, they are too interested in feathering their own nests.
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To help differentiate employee vs contractor:
Employees usually
Independent contractors usually
Of course, this is a test of employee or contractor for Forstaff, not QANTAS, there is clearly not an employment relationship there, there is a commercial relationship between Forstaff and QANTAS.
Employees usually
- do ongoing work that is controlled by their employer
- work hours they’re told to work by their employer
- are not responsible for financial risk
- are entitled to superannuation from their employer
- are entitled to minimum wages
- have income tax taken out of their pay
- are paid regularly (weekly / fortnightly / monthly)
- are generally entitled to paid leave if they are permanent employees.
Independent contractors usually
- decide how to do their work and what skills they need to do it
- decide whether to employ someone else to do the work
- carry the risk of making a profit or loss
- pay their own superannuation and tax, including GST
- have their own insurance
- are contracted to work for a set time or do a set task
- decide what hours to work
- invoice for their work or get paid at the end of the contract or project
- don’t get paid leave.
Of course, this is a test of employee or contractor for Forstaff, not QANTAS, there is clearly not an employment relationship there, there is a commercial relationship between Forstaff and QANTAS.
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Avalon workers still believe they have a future at Avalon Its Time to wake up people the game is over .
It's time to stop hijacking this thread. Perhaps provide some advice or questions about the current or future changes happening in Qantas Engineering that are affecting us all!
Last edited by Silverado; 23rd Jan 2014 at 13:14. Reason: Jethro Gibbs - Special agent, Contractor, Employee and Boat Building Extraordinaire