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Old 17th Sep 2013, 22:37
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I intensly dislike the deliberate, vicious, evil, disgusting and calculated cruelty on the part of Qantas, its Board and its management in relation to "reviewing" Avalon operations and foreshadowing closure as part of the announcement.

This is designed to maximise fear, anguish, stress and depression in the Avalon workforce and their families.

As I have repeatedly explained, when downsizing is necessary, as it sometimes is, a competent manager either does it "quick and dirty" as in a surprise Friday morning announcement not to turn up on Monday, or you do it "slow and clean" with lots of communication and at least a Six month time horizon to allow people to get used to the idea and make alternative plans.

The Qantas approach - a "six week review" is a rotten alternative, being "slow and dirty" and only a bunch of sadistic incompetents would attempt such a thing.

I hope Qantas overseas maintenance program comes back and bites their management and shareholders hard on the backside, hopefully without killing customers and staff.

One more reason never to fly Qantas - the evil airline..
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 23:09
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Off shore maintenance facilities are celebrating as their managers are pulling strings to get all these work offshore,now any other extra work that can be done here will never be done in Australia,Heavy maintenance is dead.I feel sorry for the employees of Avalon and wish them luck.Evil Qantas.
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ALAEA busy on Twitt er this morning .

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Old 18th Sep 2013, 01:59
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Thnx for the follow.
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Old 18th Sep 2013, 03:22
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In the trough.....oink....oink....

Qantas seeks boardroom pay rises | Business Spectator



Qantas seeks boardroom pay rises
2 hours ago
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Qantas Airways Ltd will seek shareholder approval to increase the fee pool for its board of directors, despite the airline clashing with unions this week over reports that up to 300 jobs may be on the line at its Avalon maintenance facility.

The airline is seeking to increase the fee pool for its non-executive directors by $250,000 per year, bringing the total fee pool amount to $2.75 million.

The proposal will be put to shareholders at the airline's forthcoming annual general meeting on October 18.

Qantas shareholders approved the current fee pool limit of $2.5 million nine years ago at the 2004 AGM.

"Given the annual aggregate fees paid during the last two years is approaching the fee pool limit, the Qantas board wishes to increase the fee pool," the airline said in a notice outlining the details of the forthcoming AGM.

"Qantas’ current board and committee fees and fee pool have been benchmarked against comparable listed companies," it said.

The increase would allow Qantas to attract and retain appropriate talent for the workload and responsibilities required of an airline board role, the company said.

Qantas recently put a freeze on the base pay of chief executive Alan Joyce, chairman Leigh Clifford and other management positions.

However the board will also seek approval for Mr Joyce to participate in its long-term incentive program, with a performance reward based on 80 per cent of his fixed remuneration of $2.125 million, redeemable as Qantas shares after three years.

The incentive program was based on a peer comparison with other ASX listed companies, the airline said.
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Old 18th Sep 2013, 03:46
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The increase would allow Qantas to attract and retain appropriate talent for the workload and responsibilities required of an airline board role, the company said.
Appropriate talent would be a Pilot, Engineer or Flight Attendant. You wouldn't need to increase the fees to secure their services.
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 02:16
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Avalon workers still believe they have a future at Avalon Its Time to wake up people the game is over .
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 02:55
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If the union is serious of keeping jobs in Australia itis time to wake up,flexibility and contract work is the only way Aviation jobs can remain here.some job is better than no job.
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 03:21
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It's surrender monkeys like the author of the previous post that have got us here and will keep us here if we aren't better.
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 06:49
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Contract work with the likes of Aviation Labor Group and others that have cut everything to the bone .

Well that's not the answer
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 09:49
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Bagus....workers at JHAS have given all the flexibility and concessions you can think off and even that doesn't appear to have saved them. A race to the bottom doesn't appease corporate greed.
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 10:32
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Look at the Avalon Forstaff workers they have never taken any action against Qantas the majority have busted there arse for the place with some pretty average working conditions and woeful Qantas planning to Deal with yet they still got the job done now there all getting screwed over because its never fast enough or cheap enough .
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 10:45
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Fedsec is it true that the association is losing or has lost about 250 tech salaried and non-certifying LAMEs from the membership due to Qantas only wanting the ALAEA to represent certifying staff?

I ask as this was mentioned today by a tech school trainer, I don't know if he was talking out of his butt, as he was the only person to know anything about it.
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Old 20th Sep 2013, 02:46
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I'm not aware of us losing any Tech Salaried members.
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Old 20th Sep 2013, 02:58
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Qantas should be making the board smaller, there is hardly any airline left to over see.
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Old 20th Sep 2013, 03:04
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these days either accept contract terms or management options always offshore,and management knows all unions are divided, so either united we stand or divided we fall. If Aviation jobs wants to survive in Australia unions got to stand together and fight for workers and not for offshore facilities. Right now these facilities are celebrating.
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Old 20th Sep 2013, 04:49
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Really is time that Avalon CEO Justin Giddings was told to stop making statements to the media he does not employ Qantas or Forstaff workers .
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Originally Posted by Fin Review 20 September
The Australian Licenced Aircraft Engineers Association has offered concessions to Qantas Airways, such as members using up annual leave during quiet periods, in order to convince the airline to keep its Avalon heavy maintenance facility open longer.

The airline this week launched a review of the future of the site, near Geelong in Victoria, which employs more than 300 workers and services a declining fleet of Boeing 747s.

After meeting Qantas on Thursday, ALAEA Federal Secretary Steve Purvinas said he now had a "strong sense" the airline had not predetermined it would close the facility after the review.

"We are prepared to assist with concessions" he said.

"The guys get 5 weeks of leave a year - they may take 10 instead" Mr Purvinas said. On average, employees at the site had 18 weeks of annual leave in reserve.

Qantas is due to meet representatives from other unions on Friday.
At least they're in there fighting.

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Old 20th Sep 2013, 11:47
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On average, employees at the site had 18 weeks of annual leave in
reserve.
18 Weeks I Find that hard to believe and who gave the ALAEA leave owed details and when did the ALAEA Start trusting Qantas and Forstaff .
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Old 20th Sep 2013, 13:48
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"The guys get 5 weeks of leave a year - they may take 10 instead" Mr Purvinas said. On average, employees at the site had 18 weeks of annual leave in reserve.

That is incorrect. On their shift pattern they get 4 weeks a year ! Given that the ALAEA have negotiated their EBA Fed Sec should know that or check his facts before making that statement.
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