When is the next cull at QF Engineering?
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After meeting Qantas on Thursday, ALAEA Federal Secretary Steve Purvinas said he now had a "strong sense" the airline had not predetermined it would close the facility after the review.
So closing down Avalon is not a option.???????
So closing down Avalon is not a option.???????
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ALAEA members have just passed resolution to
work with
Qantas to keep Avalon alive. We are keen to deliver efficiencies
work with
Qantas to keep Avalon alive. We are keen to deliver efficiencies
ALAEA don't think Qantas want to shut the place. It's
just circumstances that have Avalon on wood.
just circumstances that have Avalon on wood.
How the Hell can employees be expected to deliver efficiencies when they are working in a Qantas controlled workplace just ask anyone who has tried to improve how things are done oh that's right you cant they were shown the door quick f^&king smart or just gave up and went with the Qantas flow.
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Jethro "chicken little" Gibbs. Seems the ALAEA is damned if they do and damned if they don't in your eyes. Please enlighten us as to YOUR solution to the situation?
(P.S. The full stop key is STILL above the ALT key).
(P.S. The full stop key is STILL above the ALT key).
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Alaea are the good guys,Qantas the bad guys,The more qantas keep giving the bad news about maintenance jobs going,their customer keep abandoning them,most people think Qantas no more maintaining aircraft.
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There are some operators in Oz that are already using bag chuckers to service/maintain aircraft (some unsupervised) whilst trying to gain experience for a cat 'A'.
The rot is really setting in under this briliant new system.
The rot is really setting in under this briliant new system.
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like who Ngineer ?
Are we talking transit servicing, fuel, water, toilets, receipt, dispatch ?
Or are you talking about chapter 12 ?
I'd be very suprised if any operator is happy to let a rampy c/o tasks iaw the AMM.
Are we talking transit servicing, fuel, water, toilets, receipt, dispatch ?
Or are you talking about chapter 12 ?
I'd be very suprised if any operator is happy to let a rampy c/o tasks iaw the AMM.
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Ngineer, There are people signing as LAME's now who never did an apprenticeship and were employed as an AME at QF long ago. You know why this system has been put in. You have cone heads sitting in a office all day earning +$150K and refusing to do towing etc. It started years ago. Its Simply the company fighting back. Whilst I totally disagree with it, it is how it is. We won't win. Even with a catastrophic hull loss, CASA will be on an ass covering crusade. Nothing will be anyones fault. ATSB will issue changes which will not include removing "A" licenses.
Please tell me how many crashes or loss of life incidents have happened in Europe due to a "A" license holders error or negligence? If you have an FAA A & P then you sign everything. Have they changed it? No. Like I said I do NOT agree with the system but its hard to make a case with nothing to back you up.
As for Avalon, IT WILL CLOSE. get out now before you are out of a job. If you don't won't to move, then bad luck. get out of the industry. Lifes a
Please tell me how many crashes or loss of life incidents have happened in Europe due to a "A" license holders error or negligence? If you have an FAA A & P then you sign everything. Have they changed it? No. Like I said I do NOT agree with the system but its hard to make a case with nothing to back you up.
As for Avalon, IT WILL CLOSE. get out now before you are out of a job. If you don't won't to move, then bad luck. get out of the industry. Lifes a
You have cone heads sitting in a office all day earning +$150K and refusing to do towing etc.
As a line engineer you do everything, what you can certify has nothing to do with what you help out with.
Spent many a night covered in skydrol and grease because I want to help my crew to get the work done and get home.
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"You have cone heads sitting in a office all day earning +$150K and refusing to do towing etc."
Not all coneheads are Koala's (protected species)
Gotta agree with kiwi there... Had one changing a brake last night so we could "Go Home".
Not all coneheads are Koala's (protected species)
Gotta agree with kiwi there... Had one changing a brake last night so we could "Go Home".
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I am a Conehead and spent my last 12 years in Mel line. For several years I could not tell you which guys were Greasers and who the Coneheads were. We all did everything including towing.
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Latest news is that the Maintenance Supervisor Position at Base/SIT will disappear around Nov/Dec. In its place will be Ops Managers above the DMM's.
So there will be an Ops Manager for every shift and below him will be the DMM.
So roughly 10 to 16 positions created all on 170K +, who will actually do nothing with running the business but be on hand to sort out issues non technical & not related to maintenance!!
So the inverted cone of management increases - there are now and will be more levels of management that QF Engineering has ever had before....why?
Because upper management dont trust the guys (DMM's + Supervisors) who actually operate on the coal face, that tell them how it is and what will and will not work...
I still cant see how they can justify having so many levels of management and a MOC that is ridiculously overstaffed, with a smaller fleet of aircraft being operated...but for some reason, Qantas Engineering needs more managers...
Also still 200 staff from the ranks to get the bullet!
So there will be an Ops Manager for every shift and below him will be the DMM.
So roughly 10 to 16 positions created all on 170K +, who will actually do nothing with running the business but be on hand to sort out issues non technical & not related to maintenance!!
So the inverted cone of management increases - there are now and will be more levels of management that QF Engineering has ever had before....why?
Because upper management dont trust the guys (DMM's + Supervisors) who actually operate on the coal face, that tell them how it is and what will and will not work...
I still cant see how they can justify having so many levels of management and a MOC that is ridiculously overstaffed, with a smaller fleet of aircraft being operated...but for some reason, Qantas Engineering needs more managers...
Also still 200 staff from the ranks to get the bullet!
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Well 10 years ago a study was done by QF SIT. British Airways operated with 12 B1 & 2 B2 guys at Heathrow. I remember the meeting well. Whether right or wrong this was the direction of management 10 years ago. The writing has been on the wall for many years. We are our own worst enemies.
The worst is yet to come.
The worst is yet to come.
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Maintenance Supervisor Position at Base/SIT will disappear around Nov/Dec.
Adding an extra few holes to the cheese.
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