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Old 11th Jul 2013, 06:15
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QF 767 slide deployment Perth 10/7

There is some rumour a CSM popped a slide yesterday on a 767 in Perth as the aerobridge approached almost injuring ground staff ..... I know one was popped a month or so ago in Syd, but does anyone know if this Perth incident is true...
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 06:26
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Heard the same thing myself yesterday. Was the L1 door on a 767, which is apparently the CSMs designated door.
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I have 2 photos and for a large fee could email them to you.
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How bout for no fee you use a free photo sharing website and post the links here ? Pretty please..... (look i even asked nicely)
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Does anyone know how long it has been since the flight attendants did the "disarm and crosscheck" procedure? When did it change?
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I was about to say Disarm Doors and Crosscheck and
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Does anyone know how long it has been since the flight attendants did the "disarm and crosscheck" procedure? When did it change?
About 15 to 20 years ago.
IIRC it was so CC would take responsibility for their own doors. Perception was they were relying on the cross checkers too much.

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Old 12th Jul 2013, 04:18
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Sorry but this is a Qantas procedures fault.

In CX normally the doors are opened from the outside AFTER the crew give them a Thumbs up.

If they forget to disarm the door, opening from the OUTSIDE disarms the door.

Simple..
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Nitpicker330.

That's a handy piece of info.

I'll forward that to the Boeing Technical pilots and I'm sure they'll amend Qantas procedures straight away.

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Old 12th Jul 2013, 04:44
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It's not a procedural fault. The procedures are clear and appear to be the same as Cathay's. I suspect a brain fart or similar.

ALAEA Fed Sec. It's not been 20 years as Roo has suggested. It came in after I joined and that was 18 years ago. My gut says it changed after I became an F/O and so that makes it sometime in the last 15ish years.
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Well laugh and snigger all you want mastercaution, if its not already QF proceedure ( maybe it is Keg? ) then it should be.

If the door was opened from the OUTSIDE this incident SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE........

That you cannot dispute......

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It will still pop on a maggot if opened from the outside
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You stated "sorry, but this is a Qantas procedures Fault"

Then you went on to outline how opening a door from the outside will automatically disarm the door.

Do you honestly believe that Qantas would not be aware of this?

If the crew member involved HAD followed Qantas procedures, given the thumbs up for ground staff to open the door from the outside then this thread would not exist.

It is more a case of a crew member NOT following company procedures for that aircraft type.

Human Error.

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It will still pop on a maggot if opened from the outside

Likewise on the jungle jet.
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It is a Qantas procedure. People ignore them sometimes however for a myriad of reasons.

I almost lost a door on pushback in Perth a few years ago due to people forgetting procedures. Fortunately the Ground Engineer knew his procedures and became the broken link in the causal chain.
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Dash42,

You must be talking about the Emb135/145. If not then back to the Emb170/190 books for you as the first movement of the external handle on the 170/190 disarms the door.
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The procedure needs to be changed every couple of years so that people relearn and it remains at the forefront of the memory bank.
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