Jetstar 787's
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bumpf i heard a 787 went tech in dps. the return to mel was ccld, and it was to have flown back the following night (last night?), it would seem it wasnt fixed and theyve sent a 330 to pick up the pieces
Fanfare last year that the 787 will be operating to Japan after DEC 2013. I am surprised somebody hasn't got the full story of the mess to the media. Lesson don't let bean counters order new planes from the brochure and then jam in some more seats without doing the full homework. Poor fleet utilisation is costing zillions.
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Poor fleet utilisation is costing zillions.
Anyone know why ?
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One can only guess, the other thing is managements inability to have crew trained up ready to make full use of the new assets and apparently some hints at possible miscalculations re the range and payload capabilities ?
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These things are able to do the longer range flights, ANA has a daily Frankfurt-Tokyo service, but to do it you need decent engines and a sensible seat plan. Jetstar is woefully inadequate when it comes to operational planning, probably had some MBA business graduate work it out. The way Jetstars 787's are setup they are pretty much a domestic or near regional aircraft. And that is a fact...Which is pretty much useless as they wanted a longer range for the 330 replacement. I have heard rumours number 6 or 8 will have upgraded engines but not sure. Deers with no eyes, Deers with no eyes....
Problem is AMPCLAMP is that the performance is so so bad with the 335 seat config that now that they are here all the plans for SIN to Europe and potentially the USA have gone up in smoke as they just can't make it. We are now seeing them deployed on OZ to BALI until they figure out what the hell they are going to do with them 
Easy, have them reconfigured to three class the same as ANA (155 pax) repaint them in Qantas colours send the bill for all that to Qantas and then let them fly them. Further bill Qantas for loss of revenue to Jetstar until they receive 787s that they can properly utilise.
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On the 788's climb ability, it can get to 36000ft in 23min./ 157nm at MTOW. I rode a BA one recently, the cabin noise or lack of it is impressive; a constant shush with no tremulant effect no doubt due to the very smooth surfaces.
Why is it that airline management in Australia just cannot get aircraft configurations right?
All of Australia's airlines in the last 10 years have had very expensive, total stuffups when it comes to getting basic things in aircraft right. And I'm not talking about the aircraft not performing, I'm talking about management ordering a perfectly good aeroplane with the wrong, engines, doors, configuration or variation. Not to mention the whole saga at QF over the 777 vs A380.
Some of these decisions, this is another fine example, could put their entire operation in jeopardy?
It just beggars belief that people who are making billion dollar aircraft orders just can't get the basic stuff right. Are Australian airline managers really that incompetent this often?
Always make me laugh how the media and the Geoffry Thomas brigade go on about how good management is in such a tough industry when the reality is they can't even get the basics right.
All of Australia's airlines in the last 10 years have had very expensive, total stuffups when it comes to getting basic things in aircraft right. And I'm not talking about the aircraft not performing, I'm talking about management ordering a perfectly good aeroplane with the wrong, engines, doors, configuration or variation. Not to mention the whole saga at QF over the 777 vs A380.
Some of these decisions, this is another fine example, could put their entire operation in jeopardy?
It just beggars belief that people who are making billion dollar aircraft orders just can't get the basic stuff right. Are Australian airline managers really that incompetent this often?
Always make me laugh how the media and the Geoffry Thomas brigade go on about how good management is in such a tough industry when the reality is they can't even get the basics right.
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Always make me laugh how the media and the Geoffry Thomas brigade go on about how good management is in such a tough industry when the reality is they can't even get the basics right
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short flights long nights
Ask Pan Am, they tried to shrink to profitability.
