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Just curious as to what would be the normal pathway for Jetstar pilots to get on the 787 fleet? Will it be purely based on seniority? And if so, would this mean no chance for new recruits to start on the 787?
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Pity it's not in Qantas colours.
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Agreed - Qantas obviously should have first had the 777 years ago and now should be the first to fly the OZ flag on the 787. Sadly not to be due to years and years of mismanagement and myopia in a fast-changing airline landscape...
Love the Jetstar paintscheme on the 787. Very well done. The 787 pilots will be justifiably proud of that bird. Is there any initial destination list for the 787 (first few destinations replacing the A330s)? Singapore, Bali and Honolulu?
Love the Jetstar paintscheme on the 787. Very well done. The 787 pilots will be justifiably proud of that bird. Is there any initial destination list for the 787 (first few destinations replacing the A330s)? Singapore, Bali and Honolulu?
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Whats the bet that J* market heavily the 787 going to HNL. Of course on the same day you'll have QF passengers going there on the 767. Whilst the product isn't too different it speaks volumes that QF can continue to turn a profit with a 767. Imagine how much better we could be doing with the new metal and an upgraded product.
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But look, are they white engine nacelles? Still hope yet that sense will prevail.
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I actually applaud the arrival of JQ's 787's.
This will trigger the return of ex JQ A330's back to the Qantas mainline operation.
I'm sure your no doubt aware that internal QF group agreements disallow the same aircraft type to operate on the same city pair.
That's the reason why Qantas can't put an A330 on the HNL route until JQ are exclusively 787's on that route.
Have you ever wondered why an A330 hasnt been scheduled on the HNL route even with very high load factors.
I am of the opinion that the 787's to JQ first is nothing more than a marketing ploy and the byproduct also being reduced fuel costs.
If anything, sending the 787's to JQ first shows the resilience of the Qantas brand. Mainline B767's continue to fly to HNL full. If the QF International business truly was in terminal decline & with fuel it's major costs. The 787's would have gone to mainline first if it really needed turning around ASAP.
In the July edition of the JQ in flight magazine Jane Hrdlicka promotes the arrival of the JQ 787's as the beginning of a new era in inflight comfort.
Does anyone honestly believe being shoehorned into a JQ 787 as a comfortable experience.
I can assure you six months after the arrival of the 787 and the associated issues of introducing a new aircraft type. There will still be delays, no change to load factors and mainline charters to cover JQ unserviceabilities or cancelations to HNL. But QF will be able to send an A330.
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I actually applaud the arrival of JQ's 787's.
This will trigger the return of ex JQ A330's back to the Qantas mainline operation.
I'm sure your no doubt aware that internal QF group agreements disallow the same aircraft type to operate on the same city pair.
That's the reason why Qantas can't put an A330 on the HNL route until JQ are exclusively 787's on that route.
Have you ever wondered why an A330 hasnt been scheduled on the HNL route even with very high load factors.
I am of the opinion that the 787's to JQ first is nothing more than a marketing ploy and the byproduct also being reduced fuel costs.
If anything, sending the 787's to JQ first shows the resilience of the Qantas brand. Mainline B767's continue to fly to HNL full. If the QF International business truly was in terminal decline & with fuel it's major costs. The 787's would have gone to mainline first if it really needed turning around ASAP.
In the July edition of the JQ in flight magazine Jane Hrdlicka promotes the arrival of the JQ 787's as the beginning of a new era in inflight comfort.
Does anyone honestly believe being shoehorned into a JQ 787 as a comfortable experience.
I can assure you six months after the arrival of the 787 and the associated issues of introducing a new aircraft type. There will still be delays, no change to load factors and mainline charters to cover JQ unserviceabilities or cancelations to HNL. But QF will be able to send an A330.
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]I'm sure your no doubt aware that internal QF group agreements disallow the same aircraft type to operate on the same city pair.
Really? Seems that someone hasn't got that memo. I have often operated SIN-MEL in a QF330 some 5 mins behind JQ8 - another A330
Really? Seems that someone hasn't got that memo. I have often operated SIN-MEL in a QF330 some 5 mins behind JQ8 - another A330
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Oh spare me.
I concede you are correct.
Perhaps the internal agreements are being unwound since Hickeys arrival at international or have expired.
Hopefully sanity it's starting to prevail.
I concede you are correct.
Perhaps the internal agreements are being unwound since Hickeys arrival at international or have expired.
Hopefully sanity it's starting to prevail.
From what I've heard from various sources MC the first 787's don't have the legs to go to HNL with the same load and freight capacity as the 330. Maybe JH made her announcement before commercial understood that just because the nice aeroplane salesman says it will take so many people so many miles with so much freight they forgot to mention that it can't do it all at the same time!
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Maybe someone should tell Hrdlicka & marketing.
I just went back over the online version of the Jetstar inflight mag (July & August)
It definitely states the 787 to HNL and ALL JQ Longhaul destinations served by the 787 by 2015.
Maybe someone should tell Hrdlicka & marketing.
I just went back over the online version of the Jetstar inflight mag (July & August)
It definitely states the 787 to HNL and ALL JQ Longhaul destinations served by the 787 by 2015.
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Originally Posted by lookleft
From what I've heard from various sources MC the first 787's don't have the legs to go to HNL with the same load and freight capacity as the 330. Maybe JH made her announcement before commercial understood that just because the nice aeroplane salesman says it will take so many people so many miles with so much freight they forgot to mention that it can't do it all at the same time!