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QF Leasing Rumours

Old 18th May 2013, 03:09
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QF Leasing Rumours

Rumours from mates in the sandpit indicate a leasing arrangment between EK and QF is under consideration.
EK paint up some aircraft in QF colours and leases them.These aircraft will then fly into airports where EK has used all its landing slots.Subject to bilateral agreements this arrangement would appear to have some merit
What type of lease(wet lease?) and what type of aircraft has not been forthcoming
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Old 18th May 2013, 03:12
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Rumours of another Large 380 order coming from the sandpit aswell, to go on top of the big order the already have.
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Old 18th May 2013, 04:35
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Yes K.B, I would put money on it.
I thought that was a pretty obvious reason why EK went into this QF/EK deal to start with... to utilise all the unused slots of QF, globally and access more of the Oz market which is lucrative for them.
I'm afraid it may all be just a one way road... if wet leases... BUT given EK can't get enough trained/qualified crew & trained in time (bottlenecked), it may work out as dry leases.

Might see what that dick lil'Tommy Waterhouse has on it

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Old 18th May 2013, 07:02
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I bet it's the B777. Yippee!!
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Old 18th May 2013, 11:36
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I've been hearing rumours right from the start of this EK/QF thing that QF would be getting 777s out of it.

The main one I heard was that QF would get some of EK's delivery slots off the production line for new-build 777s. I guess a lease is better than nothing.
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Old 18th May 2013, 11:46
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Old 18th May 2013, 12:07
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Pffft 777's...Pure fantasy....380's will use any slots.
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Old 19th May 2013, 00:50
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Here we go again.

When and if it's sitting at the QF gate in QF colours (and hopefully with QF crew) then I will believe it. Until then, 'fraid not.
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Old 19th May 2013, 01:27
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With QF Crews costing double the EK crews it will be a wet lease or a contract position.
EK do not throw money away.
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Old 19th May 2013, 01:40
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Half the cost of a QF crew!

Have things become that bad in the Sandpit?
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Old 19th May 2013, 01:43
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With QF Crews costing double the EK crews
Source?
Did you take into account housing / medical / education / provident fund / utilities in your calculation? ie there is an "implicit tax" on companies operating in the UAE, as opposed to an explicit one for Oz operations.

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Old 19th May 2013, 02:08
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With QF Crews costing double the EK crews it will be a wet lease or a contract position.
EK do not throw money away.
They definitely wouldn't be half the price, even if they were cheaper when the Australian dollar drops to prices before the gfc it will even out. I know for lame's at emirates when you add up everything in the package like housing, school, medical etc, it costs emirates about $10k less than a qantas lame but when the Australian dollar drops to below $0.90 to the us dollar it will even out.
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Old 19th May 2013, 03:06
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How would dual liveries affect the A/C on a conveyor belt?
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Old 19th May 2013, 03:18
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Dual Liveries

How about dual Qantas-Emirates liveries? | Plane Talking
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Old 20th May 2013, 07:40
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Next year sometime DXB will be down to single runway ops for a few months, this will obviously impact capacity. Perhaps over this period some excess EK airframes (777s) might be deployed with QF instead of parking them....?
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Old 20th May 2013, 11:08
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Rumour around QF Fleet is that Qantas is looking for additional A330s as a stopgap until the 787-9 arrives (Assuming that they do arrive). Rumoured number varies from 2 to 10 frames. Based in Perth perhaps?
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Old 20th May 2013, 18:04
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330's.... What's he ask'n?
777's.... Tell i'm he's dreamin!

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Old 20th May 2013, 21:54
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It matters not. Qantas is now just another business name for Emirates. Furthermore, when the Sunni/Shia war starts, you are going to wish you had never heard of the Middle East.
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Old 20th May 2013, 22:45
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Furthermore, when the Sunni/Shia war starts
It started centuries ago. Hasn't stopped since....
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Old 21st May 2013, 10:27
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Rumours of another Large 380 order coming from the sandpit aswell, to go on top of the big order the already have.

Hasn't Tim Clark been saying for a while that they want another 30 x A380s?
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