Boeing offer new 777 version.

[halfback]

Looks like even Boeing are trying to save QF Int. Do you think the QF CEO and Board will finally wake up to what the people at the coalface (pilots and engineers) have been saying for years? Comments....

[Keg]

Do you think the QF CEO and Board will finally wake up to what the people at the coalface (pilots and engineers) have been saying for years? Comments....

No. They won't.

[ernestkgann]

If it makes you feel any better, Borghetti still doesn't believe the B777 can make money.

[Ngineer]

Whats the bet this thread wont last that long?

[Wally Mk2]

The Mods are still asleep 'Ng', it's Sunday & the punters here are allowed a few hrs perhaps a day to play with QF 'till the QF reps step in 4 the good of the Co:-)

As for the 777, well am sure the bean counters have looked at all airframes so there must be more to it behind the scenes than us plebs know:-) But by all accounts the drivers & spanner turners seem to think they (777) are good but those two groups are just slaves these days & are to be seen & not heard!

Wmk2

[Capt_SNAFU]

Perhaps they could turn some of the options for the 787 into the 777x which in size terms for some of the routes makes more sense.

[tail wheel]

The Mods have been awake for hours.

Thread being watched to see if there is any news content or whether it should be moved to the questions and debating forum.

[Wellwellwell]

Anyone know how hard VA fly theirs? I seem to recall that it's just SYD/MEL to LAX daily now?

[pull-up-terrain]

Anyone know how hard VA fly theirs? I seem to recall that it's just SYD/MEL to LAX daily now?

And abu dhabi

[Red Jet]

Anyone know how hard VA fly theirs? I seem to recall that it's just SYD/MEL to LAX daily now?

I think our current level of activity is something like:
SYD-LAX-SYD 7 times a week
SYD-AUH-SYD 3 times a week
AUH-KUL-AUH once a week
MEL-LAX-MEL 3 times a week
BNE-LAX-BNE 3 times a week

5 aircraft going pretty much flat-stick, spending most of their "downtime" for scheduled maintenance etc. on the ground in LAX.

If it makes you feel any better, Borghetti still doesn't believe the B777 can make money.

His view is a lot more nuanced than that. He likes the aircraft, but immediately upon taking the helm, re-deployed the aircraft to different routes where the aircraft currently is turning a tidy profit. As to future aircraft, I believe an announcement re long-haul fleet acquisition decision is forthcoming sometime in Q3/Q4. More Tripplers, - Dreamliners or the new A350? We'll soon know either way.
Cheers

[speedjet]

SYD-LAX-SYD 7 times a week
SYD-AUH-SYD 3 times a week
AUH-KUL-AUH once a week
MEL-LAX-MEL 3 times a week
BNE-LAX-BNE 3 times a week.

All correct above except BNE-LAX-BNE is 4 times a week

[Ken Borough]

spending most of their "downtime" for scheduled maintenance etc. on the ground in LAX

Yikes! I thought that would have not been to acceptable ALAEA standards and would not have been permited. Oh, that philosophy only applies to Qantas. Silly me!

[Red Jet]

Yikes! I thought that would have not been to acceptable ALAEA standards and would not have been permited. Oh, that philosophy only applies to Qantas. Silly me!

Are you saying your engineers must be on Aussie soil to swing a spanner, Ken? Nahh, didn't think so...
We used to have the "slack" in our schedule on the ground in Sydney, but I believe that due to the desire to have morning arrivals into LAX (possibly along with the high parking charges in Sydney), that was changed a couple of years ago.

[Ken Borough]

Hey Red,

No, I'm not saying that! Whenever off-shore maintenance was/is mentioned, Qantas was/is mercilessly crucified. Another carrier does it - silence. The hypocrisy of some is breathtaking.

[Cactusjack]

Oh yes, Ken the number 1 Qantas aircraft plane spotter fan!
Please Ken, tell us more about the 777 and Qantas, enlighten us with more your assessment. Please break the silence, tell us what your binoculars and rego note pad tells you??

[Freewheel]

So what about this alleged new model makes it better than the current fleet?

[Silverado]

No, I'm not saying that! Whenever off-shore maintenance was/is mentioned, Qantas was/is mercilessly crucified. Another carrier does it - silence. The hypocrisy of some is breathtaking.

Yes Qantas has been crucified many times, for many reasons. Non of which have anything to do with the topic.

[virginexcess]

So what about this alleged new model makes it better than the current fleet?

Has a lot of the 787 innovations (without the batteries i suspect)

It will be bigger, fly further and weigh less. I believe it is such an improvement in weight that it is going back to the 90 ton engines, or at least a lighter version of the 115's.

[Chocks Away]

Great article here, with a good run down of engines, here.

I recall reading recently that GE were granted the favoured engine for type (?)

[Wizofoz]

They're talking about an 18% decrease in seat-mile costs, unprecedented in a derivative design.