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Old 16th Apr 2013, 09:08
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Yes should be a fair bit of residual coming up.

Tankengine, that's ok mate. As I was writing it I was thinking was it 28 or 30? To hard to check the FSO again.
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 09:16
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It will be interesting to see who goes where considering 767 F/Os are going to the 380 as S/Os rather than the 737.
Of course some of the 737 slots will go to 64 year old 747 Captains.
The 747 will still be over staffed.
At least some new Captains on the 737 will be happy to have changed seats.
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 09:49
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A330 Captain
15 PER,
14 MEL

A330 F/O:
4 SYD
9 MEL
15 PER

737 Captain
9 Bris
7 Per
10 Mel
2 Syd

737 F/O
1 BNE
2 MEL
5 SYD
2 PER
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 10:13
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It will be interesting to see who goes where considering 767 F/Os are going to the 380 as S/Os rather than the 737.
One F/O went S/O A380 when they had the seniority to be F/O A330!
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 10:20
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One F/O went S/O A380 when they had the seniority to be F/O A330!
I don't blame them.

Big pay rise. No responsibility. Better destinations. More time off.

And you get to spend half the flight in the bunk on your back getting paid overtime to dig for prime nose gold.

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Old 16th Apr 2013, 10:33
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One F/O went S/O A380 when they had the seniority to be F/O A330!
It's not for me but I can understand how a decade of SYD - MEL - SYD could do that to a person.
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 12:06
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Do the "J" numbers get a look in for the commands? How far off are the J numbers for a A330 command?
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 12:14
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You're kidding right?
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 12:22
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Of course the J numbers get a look in.

They're only 2000 numbers off the mark though........
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 13:55
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As the MOU has provided so inclined QF pilots with opportunities over the last few years, it will provide JQ pilots with such opportunities down the track. I'm guessing a JQ number would get you a 737 FO slot or (if it exists) a 767 residual slot maybe. However, probably in 10 years or so it will get you an A330/787 command if those slots exist. I can't for the life of me understand why an eligible JQ pilot (who would already have a command) would want to get rid of the MOU now. It doesn't cost you anything if you've already got your command and it can only provide benefits down the track.

Ineligible JQ pilots are the ones leading you down the garden path on that one.

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Old 16th Apr 2013, 13:58
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Yet again, my whelm has been completely under-ed.
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 01:41
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So any guesses how low the lowest will go?

I'm guessing that will be Perth based stuff this time?

The new base really throws all guesses out......

What's the word on street. A lot of 767 crew/ east coast must be a bit jaded. Not a lot about if you are not prepare to move
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 02:33
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SO A380 is looking good.
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 02:39
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Bid Long to Short Haul & miss out on the FWA determined backpay in the process.
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 03:11
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Haven't seen these possies advertized yet for us J* jocks...

Not happy AIPA
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 03:22
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There is only 130 Jetstar Pilots who have access to the MOU.

If it goes to vote, even if those guys want to keep it, the rest don't.

If the scope was broadened there may be more support for it. Right now, it's a waste of time for the other 90% of Jetstar guys, hence the lack if support.

It'll be gone this EBA unless it's derailed by the Irishman.
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 03:23
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jetstar pilot.

The MOU slots are at the same clerks "in tray" as the JQ 787 slots and all other JQ promotions happening other than the Darwin quarantined base.

It's time that EVERY slot available both at QF & JQ are published & available to ALL crew per the MOU.

JQ guys & girls would certainly be in the running for 737 slots out of Perth & one would imagine not too far off 737 Commands in Perth.

MC.
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 03:31
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Sounds like a really complicated place to work..
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 03:33
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Originally Posted by Jetstarpilot View Post
Haven't seen these possies advertized yet for us J* jocks...

Not happy AIPA
Just what position would you expect?

I joined QF in 2002 and my seniority wouldn't get me within cooee of an A330 F/O position. If you are a JQ skipper who joined JQ the day JQ started in 2003 that would put you behind me in Q Group seniority. As such your seniority falls, at best, with a B737 F/O in Perth or S/O on the A330. I doubt you would even get an A380 S/O slot as these are being bid for by pilots senior to me.

Although since you're probably part of the entitled generation and expect to be given a command within 5 minutes of joining JQ I expect they should be creating an A380 command slot just to keep you happy.

How about a little bit if a reality check and get in F#%*¥G line pal!
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 03:39
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The Jetstar MOU numbers wouldn't be anywhere close to any commands, as previously said possibly an F/O on the 737 but maybe even not...the time will come down the track where the numbers could throw up some possibilities so if I was in J* there's no way I would want the MOU deal thrown out.....
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