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Old 4th Feb 2013, 16:16
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Qantas cancels Adelaide-Singapore flights

This is an example of the behaviour that has made Qantas a national disgrace.

As anyone who has ever worked in the field of economic development would know, a lack of direct international flights is a major disincentive to international business investment and South Australia may suffer as a result. The Federal Government made a major blunder when it sold Qantas by not imposing a universal service obligation requiring it to provide a daily direct fight schedule to major international destinations from and to each State capital.

What is equally puzzling is the Union assertion that all Qantas direct international flights are full to and from Adelaide, but that the business is not making money from them.

Its time States and the Federal Government acted to impose a universal service obligation on a flag carrier or take further steps to open the skies to other carriers.

A good start for the South Australian Government would be to switch all their domestic air travel business to Virgin.

Qantas cancels Adelaide-Singapore flights - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)


Qantas cancels Adelaide-Singapore flights

Updated 9 hours 26 minutes ago
Qantas kangaroo on plane tail. Photo: Qantas will axe its Adelaide-Singapore services in April. (ABC News: Giulio Saggin)
Map: SA

Qantas will axe its direct flights between Adelaide and Singapore in April as part of a national restructure of its Asian services.

Adelaide Airport says the airline provides three weekly flights direct from Singapore to Adelaide and another three from Adelaide to Singapore via Sydney.

The airport says the decision is disappointing and comes as the number of international passengers using the terminal continues to grow.

Adelaide Airport says the loss of the Qantas flights will be partially offset by Singapore Airlines' decision to increase its Adelaide services in July.

But Senator Nick Xenophon has labelled Qantas's decision an insult to the state.

He says Adelaide is being marginalised by the airline.

"We now have a crazy situation where other countries' airlines are bringing more and more flights into Adelaide from overseas yet Qantas has now severed its last remaining flights in and out of Adelaide on an international route," he said.

"That, to me, is a disgrace.

"Qantas says that they've been losing money on the Adelaide-Singapore route when Qantas employees tell me that they're flights out of Adelaide to Singapore have invariably been incredibly full."

The Transport Workers Union says it expects the airline's decision will lead to job losses.

Branch organiser Matthew Spring says Qantas workers were given no warning about the changes.

"They only found out in the same that way we did, through the media and through us ringing them. They're shocked," he said.

"One of my delegates said 'I don't understand that, those flights are coming in loaded, they're not empty, they're coming in fully loaded. Why would you want to get on a domestic flight and fly to Melbourne to fly out to Singapore, when you go straight from here to Singapore on another flight?'"

Qantas says it is working on a deal with Dubai-based airline Emirates.

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We all know the alternative
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And halving Perth/Singapore, dropping 3 Sydney/Hongkongs a week plus Frankfurt which is about another 80 surplus 747 pilots. Shrink the business to become profitable.
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QF decreases adl-sin while SQ increases.

Go figure....
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What are the odds that we'll see JQ 330s out of Adelaide in the next 6 months?
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As anyone who has ever worked in the field of economic development would know, a lack of direct international flights is a major disincentive to international business investment and South Australia may suffer as a result.
Unfortunately Cathay, Singapore, Malaysian, probably a Chinese airline or two and a few Asian Low-cost carriers including Jetstar (non-Aust based) will step in to fill the void......sad really.
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All direct from Adelaide I heard :

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What are the odds that we'll see JQ 330s out of Adelaide in the next 6 months?
pretty good odds... and appears to be in the script for the show.... behind those lounge doors..


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luckily syd has plenty of extra capacity for all these extra transit passengers
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....And lets not forget the trashing of our former business partner BA. I guess we better lube up for when Emirates returns the favour.

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luckily syd has plenty of extra capacity for all these extra transit passengers
QANTAS may expect passengers to do that but I think below more likely. Etihad and even Emirates.


Unfortunately Cathay, Singapore, Malaysian, probably a Chinese airline or two and a few Asian Low-cost carriers including Jetstar (non-Aust based) will step in to fill the void......sad really.
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Are premium, High Yield pax going to fly with an airline where there is even a remote chance of ending up on a Jetstar sector?

Why would anyone from South Australia make the rotten transit to Sydney?

Qantas has just lost whatever market share of South Australia it had - except for the bogan Coles frequent flyer point market.

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So is it confirmed now that Frankfurt is gone in April? I heard last week from an FA that it was going till oct? Quick check of the schedule a few hours ago still showed QF 5/6 running in sept/oct??
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Yeap 22k. FRA is gone in April. I think around the 13th.

Another one bites the dust.
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Grrrrr..... Why bother with London still then? Just bite the bullet and can it so we can all stop watching this car crash!!!
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As qantas has poor management ,the decision to cancel all this destination must have come from the Emirates management.
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It's Adelaide...who cares?
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Won't the ADL pax that used to use the service just jump on the EK / QF flight number that EK will be running out of ADL shortly?
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That will probably be the idea.

And that is exactly what is going to kill QF. EK will erode them in so many markets they will probably just end up giving it all away to EK. Which is probably the EK long game. They takeover an entire market via the backdoor. QF are left with a Domestic airline and maybe a couple of 380's that do SYD-LHR and LAX, EK will cover the rest.
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Won't the ADL pax that used to use the service just jump on the EK / QF flight number that EK will be running out of ADL shortly?
Only if they take a parachute and don't mind trying to glide it in from mid-Indian ocean...
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