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Old 27th Jan 2013, 00:19
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Gold Coast ops today

I note that Virgin has cancelled all their flights into Gold Coast today from SYD,MEL & ADL. A wise decision given the weather forecast, I should think.

However, it appears Jetstar & Tiger are still attempting arrivals.
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The ABC news this morning (Weekend Breakfast ABC24) reported that "a plane missed the runway at Brisbane and has been diverted to Sydney".

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Interesting that the Gold Coast is still open but the Sunshine Coast is closed. Only flying machine we have seen was the rescue helicopter.
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Old 27th Jan 2013, 01:55
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Airports don't 'close' in Australia unless they are NOTAM'd as being u/s. It's just that if the weather is below the minima no one gets in.

What ever happened to Gold Coast getting an ILS?

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Jetstar have an RNP approach into the goldcoast.

Don't think Tiger do. Virgin certainly don't and thanks why they have probably cancelled the flights.

Bit foolhardy of tiger to push it, especially with their regulator stoush.
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Old 27th Jan 2013, 02:21
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The x-wind on a wet RWY at Goldy and more so MCY could also be why they have cancelled flights.

Current max x-wind at Goldy is 38 kts.

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38 knots is the max demonstrated in the 320.
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Old 27th Jan 2013, 03:23
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Isn't MCY a narrower runway than normal or has it been widened?
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Old 27th Jan 2013, 03:26
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Question

38 knots is the max demonstrated in the 320.
Wet or dry because most runways in SE QLD today are on the wet side of things.
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MCY still a 30m RWY
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Airports don't 'close' in Australia unless they are NOTAM'd as being u/s.
Well, Sunny Toast Airport had a Notam saying it was closed due to extreme weather.
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38 knots is the max demonstrated in the 320.
Risk management, Gobbo.
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Old 27th Jan 2013, 04:26
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Sunshine Coast:
C23/13 REVIEW C22/13
AD NOT AVBL DUE SEVERE WX
EXC EMERG OPS
ATS STILL AVBL
FROM 01 262236 TO 01 272130 EST
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Well, Sunny Toast Airport had a Notam saying it was closed due to extreme weather
In whose opinion? The PIC is the sole judge of whether it is safe to land or not some tool in the safety car. In Eurpoe they can 'close' airports due weather but here it is the PIC's call.

You do the approach if you can get visual you land. If you don't you go around. Simple as that.

If the whole joint is underwater it needs to be NOTAM'd closed due flooding but to say the place is closed just because it's raining hard is ridiculous.

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As has been pointed out, there is a NOTAM announcing MCY is closed. So given that,I would say that airports do in fact close. Much like Kowanyama atm...

I would be interested in the implications of the PIC deciding on landing at a "closed" airport and bending the plane...

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And I'm saying that they can't actually do that due weather not their decision to make.
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Old 27th Jan 2013, 05:13
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The rules changed when Operational Control was ditched (previously, ATC could close an airport for, say fog); now, I think ATC can only close an airport for Thunderstorms. I'll be b@ggered if I can find any reference to support my "think" though.
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Neville, Id say you are incorrect and they can actually do that. Cause they've done it.

The aerodrome owner has the authority to close their aerodrome if they feel operations in the current conditions are unsafe. I think you'll find this has nothing to do with atc and everything to do with the airport owner.


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C'mon where are the TAF posters??
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No need crwkunt roll,


You only need to watch the day long coverage on Chanel 7 with live cuts to some light rain on the Goldie to know it's very, very serious
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