Future of Tiger Australia without Virgin
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Present Position
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Ryan's profit & loss statement is irrelevant to the customer. They are, as you state, a crap airline to fly. The fact that they make a profit of any magnitude is a stinging indictment of the marketplace rather than of the merchant.
P.T. barnum said it best...
P.T. barnum said it best...
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: mexico
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
"Ryan's profit & loss statement is irrelevant to the customer"
ahhhh, other way around dont you think.
Who cares what the customer says, Ryan make good money.
From the customer perspective, money talks when purchasing a ticket
ahhhh, other way around dont you think.
Who cares what the customer says, Ryan make good money.
From the customer perspective, money talks when purchasing a ticket
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: UK EAST COAST
Posts: 322
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I find it hard to single out any shorthaul airline as being better than the other in this day and age.
I have flown Qantas, Jetstar, Virgin and Tiger, plus plenty of UK/European airlines and they are all the same to me on short haul, the check in staff can often have a bigger impression on the customer and as often as not they aren't even employed by the airline. The flight crew on most airlines seem to be doing the job to the best of their ability, the price dictates that the service will be basic, if you want the best treatment then pay the silly money and sit at the front even though it won't be the best value for the flight. Short haul in Australia is just the same as short haul in the UK and Europe and the USA, in my experience, dictated by price and the lowest standard that the airline thinks that the customer will accept. They seem to have it right because flights are almost always full.
I have flown Qantas, Jetstar, Virgin and Tiger, plus plenty of UK/European airlines and they are all the same to me on short haul, the check in staff can often have a bigger impression on the customer and as often as not they aren't even employed by the airline. The flight crew on most airlines seem to be doing the job to the best of their ability, the price dictates that the service will be basic, if you want the best treatment then pay the silly money and sit at the front even though it won't be the best value for the flight. Short haul in Australia is just the same as short haul in the UK and Europe and the USA, in my experience, dictated by price and the lowest standard that the airline thinks that the customer will accept. They seem to have it right because flights are almost always full.
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,841
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
One of the Biggest differences that I noticed between EU and Aus is the Domestic (intra europe) Biz class seats.
In Europe, they are exactly the same seats in Biz as in Econ. They just tend to keep the middle seat free... in Aus they actually have a biz seat in biz class. Makes a bit of a difference if you ask me.
In Europe, they are exactly the same seats in Biz as in Econ. They just tend to keep the middle seat free... in Aus they actually have a biz seat in biz class. Makes a bit of a difference if you ask me.
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 704
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Missus VH and I have been doing a lot of inter state trips recently out of our own money so have been careful about getting good deals. Time and time again, QF has been cheapest or equal cheapest when comparing similar flight times and taking a checked-in bag. And that's ignoring the possible additional expense for an in-flight snack which is free on Qantas.
Not sure what load factors the others are getting but all the flights we've been on have been relatively (est. 90%+) full.
Oh, had to book daughter onto a Jetstar recently due lack of availability of any other options. They made her take 2kg from her cabin bag and put it in her checked baggage. Seriously, how does that help?
Not sure what load factors the others are getting but all the flights we've been on have been relatively (est. 90%+) full.
Oh, had to book daughter onto a Jetstar recently due lack of availability of any other options. They made her take 2kg from her cabin bag and put it in her checked baggage. Seriously, how does that help?
Business class is best appreciated on a 14 hour overnight flight. A nice dinner, few drinks and a good nights sleep lying down in a spacious quiet cabin, vs trying to sleep upright crammed in like sardines in economy with crying babies and noisy children.
On a two hour flight it's hardly worth the extra. The seat may be a bit nicer but it's unlikely to be lie flat on a narrow body aircraft, you may not be flying during meal times and will only get a small snack. I can suffer a couple of hours quite easily with my IPAD and a good book. Join one of the lounge programs such as Priority Pass (not well represented in Australia at the moment), so you can have something to eat and drink just before boarding and you'll hardly notice the difference.
On a two hour flight it's hardly worth the extra. The seat may be a bit nicer but it's unlikely to be lie flat on a narrow body aircraft, you may not be flying during meal times and will only get a small snack. I can suffer a couple of hours quite easily with my IPAD and a good book. Join one of the lounge programs such as Priority Pass (not well represented in Australia at the moment), so you can have something to eat and drink just before boarding and you'll hardly notice the difference.
