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Yes, but that's a Flight Deck grade, TC has referenced the management grades. (ie grade 8 and above.)
FD06 (an FO) is equivalent to a Management grade 9 from memory. (I can't remember where the reference is, but in order to get Education Support allowance, and car loan you have to be 9+)
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FD06 (an FO) is equivalent to a Management grade 9 from memory. (I can't remember where the reference is, but in order to get Education Support allowance, and car loan you have to be 9+)
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by Denabol - I'm keen to support Qantas but it seems to do everything possible to make me choose a different airline when family members to Europe or Asia, including a daughter who has to fly to Asia around six times a year. I've taken to Virgin for the few Australia flights I do, but some of us fly a lot, and Qantas has just lost the plot.
I think Ben Sandilands highlights Denabols observations today... in response to a sneaky good Friday press release from Qantas which stretches the truth somewhat...
Qantas-Emirates and 'stuff you' Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth | Plane Talking
For a national flag carrier its treatment of these cities in terms of business and tourism links to the rest of the world is a disgrace, compounded no doubt for some ejected Qantas supporters in those cities by handing over vital links to Emirates as part of the new business relationship that starts on Sunday.
Not that there is anything wrong with Emirates, which is a great supporter of tourism to the parts of Australia Qantas neglects, but telling customers to fly on a non-Australian carrier, when you are the Australian carrier, is both arrogant and an invitation for them to fly Singapore Airlines instead, which is also a great supporter of tourism across all of our fair country.
Earlier today Qantas put out a press release, shown in full at the end of this post, which for some inexplicable reason, other than the ritual pro forma Singaporean approval for the Qantas-Emirates partnership, chose to highlight the benefits of the Qantas-Emirates relationship between Singapore and Brisbane and Singapore and Melbourne.
The weird bit is the reference to how Qantas in increasing its dedicated seats to Singapore by 40% but now offering two non-stop flights daily on each of these routes between Australia and Singapore comprising a two class service in a Qantas A330-300 and a three class service in an Emirates Boeing 777-300ER. (If you want to fly first class Qantas is punting the usual customers, who are governmental VIPs, and very wealthy corporate customers or individuals, into the Emirates flight, but they could exercise choice and fly Singapore Airlines, and get Virgin points too.)
For a national flag carrier its treatment of these cities in terms of business and tourism links to the rest of the world is a disgrace, compounded no doubt for some ejected Qantas supporters in those cities by handing over vital links to Emirates as part of the new business relationship that starts on Sunday.
Not that there is anything wrong with Emirates, which is a great supporter of tourism to the parts of Australia Qantas neglects, but telling customers to fly on a non-Australian carrier, when you are the Australian carrier, is both arrogant and an invitation for them to fly Singapore Airlines instead, which is also a great supporter of tourism across all of our fair country.
Earlier today Qantas put out a press release, shown in full at the end of this post, which for some inexplicable reason, other than the ritual pro forma Singaporean approval for the Qantas-Emirates partnership, chose to highlight the benefits of the Qantas-Emirates relationship between Singapore and Brisbane and Singapore and Melbourne.
The weird bit is the reference to how Qantas in increasing its dedicated seats to Singapore by 40% but now offering two non-stop flights daily on each of these routes between Australia and Singapore comprising a two class service in a Qantas A330-300 and a three class service in an Emirates Boeing 777-300ER. (If you want to fly first class Qantas is punting the usual customers, who are governmental VIPs, and very wealthy corporate customers or individuals, into the Emirates flight, but they could exercise choice and fly Singapore Airlines, and get Virgin points too.)
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Another grubby QF missive...
Adjunct to all of this a letter arrived yesterday from QF. Well, a glossy scratch n sniff card promoting the code share and inviting the recipient to scratch to see if it was one of the free 'golden tickets' to Dubai.
I wish to hell that Qantas would put me on their adult mailing list. First the scroll...a piece of insulting excrement beyond belief, now this cynical exercise in loyalty buying. My card went unscratched into the season's first open fire. I sure hope that unscratched panel isn't toxic, but then again what from them isn't?
Every time they insult me this way I find another notch on the hate scale to ratchet to, and seek yet one more way to punish them for it. Arseholes.
I wish to hell that Qantas would put me on their adult mailing list. First the scroll...a piece of insulting excrement beyond belief, now this cynical exercise in loyalty buying. My card went unscratched into the season's first open fire. I sure hope that unscratched panel isn't toxic, but then again what from them isn't?
Every time they insult me this way I find another notch on the hate scale to ratchet to, and seek yet one more way to punish them for it. Arseholes.
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I thought 'whatever' when I got the letter but using it as a reason to ratchet up the 'hate levels'? Some perspective may be needed. Misguided as they are I'm not sure that's a reason to waste effort and energy on hating them? There are far more productive ways of expending energy than on hating anyone else for anything. Pity is about as far as I'm prepared to go and even that isn't worth it. 
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Hate is my default position Keg. It takes no energy at all. Hate, and sarcastic hyperbole. You take things too literally. What are you? A pilot or something?
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So as a Captain in Emirates, we're only entitled to an economy class ticket on QF according to the TC Email today??
Beer Baron he can take his kids into J class on EK. Its only 1st Bypass can't take them into.
I am sure he is just trying to arrange travel to a non EK A380 destination after his arrival into OZ. Those 777s are just too slow, bumpy and noisy.
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I am sure he is just trying to arrange travel to a non EK A380 destination after his arrival into OZ. Those 777s are just too slow, bumpy and noisy.
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TB, No point being angry with Keg, at least the management are showing signs of trying to engage, as it turns out, you burnt your scratchie, I presume a few others may have had similar thoughts.
With all that cr*p everyone has been through the last few years at least it is a step in the right direction... there is a good chance the scratchies may have put a smile on a few faces
At the end of the day, the airline business worldwide is under huge pressure, dog fights everywhere and who knows what will happen in 6 months time? It's probably one of the most frustrating business's on earth, everybody gets in on the act, governments, lawyers, bean counters, security, more bean counters, more political types and equivalents in slightly cheaper suits... oh yeah, of course there are the people who fly, serve and maintain the a/c.
For me, it's all ended up in reverse, these days the suits appear to consider themselves more important than the operational staff, not all of them think like this but their hands are tied by the people in the expensive suits who throw the decision dice, whatever numbers they land on, we got to live with it until the current dice throwers move on.
One of the messages over the last three years from a certain CEO has been "people don't like change," well whether they do or don't it has been decided, so on Easter Sunday if you want to do the hop to London on Qantas it's via DXB, end of story.
Deep down, I hope this new strategy rakes in millions in profit (proves me wrong) and Qantas International is returned (as promised) to its glory days it rightfully deserves, a well respected International airline. In many ways it still is, thanks to the hard work from the operational staff. The guys n girls working in domestic do a sterling job holding the fort.
I reckon there was a bit of a fun celebration staff party last Thursday, all very pleased with themselves after the ACCC formalities where complete. For Albo, "it's away we go now" we all knew that Ablo would be one of the list, it's the way it always worked.
Albo, the minister for everything since the last reshuffle and frankly the only ministers name I can remember, there's been so many of them! Expect in the mail soon, "who's the minister for what?" scratchie competition.
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With all that cr*p everyone has been through the last few years at least it is a step in the right direction... there is a good chance the scratchies may have put a smile on a few faces
At the end of the day, the airline business worldwide is under huge pressure, dog fights everywhere and who knows what will happen in 6 months time? It's probably one of the most frustrating business's on earth, everybody gets in on the act, governments, lawyers, bean counters, security, more bean counters, more political types and equivalents in slightly cheaper suits... oh yeah, of course there are the people who fly, serve and maintain the a/c.
For me, it's all ended up in reverse, these days the suits appear to consider themselves more important than the operational staff, not all of them think like this but their hands are tied by the people in the expensive suits who throw the decision dice, whatever numbers they land on, we got to live with it until the current dice throwers move on.
One of the messages over the last three years from a certain CEO has been "people don't like change," well whether they do or don't it has been decided, so on Easter Sunday if you want to do the hop to London on Qantas it's via DXB, end of story.
Deep down, I hope this new strategy rakes in millions in profit (proves me wrong) and Qantas International is returned (as promised) to its glory days it rightfully deserves, a well respected International airline. In many ways it still is, thanks to the hard work from the operational staff. The guys n girls working in domestic do a sterling job holding the fort.
I note the Minister for Transport Anthony Albanese will be travelling on the inaugural QF flight to Dubai on Sunday.
Gee. Lucky the alliance was approved in time.
Gee. Lucky the alliance was approved in time.
Albo, the minister for everything since the last reshuffle and frankly the only ministers name I can remember, there's been so many of them! Expect in the mail soon, "who's the minister for what?" scratchie competition.
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Is Richard De Cresp flying the first QF 380 to Dubai?
For the flights out of LHR, these are just line drivers. They'll be heavy crewed because these guys went up via Singapore. All the flights DXB-LHR are currently planned two man crew.
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No, star men for the flights out of SYD and MEL. One star man out of DXB. I don't know the other dude.
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Rumour has it the advance QF loads DXB-LHR-DXB are very poor to the extent comment has been made that DXB-LHR-DXB may no longer be viable financially.
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Even with 5 380 operating to Heathrow we still don't have enough seats. Do you really think Emirates are going to allow the opportunity to fill two extra 380s with passengers out of Dubai to Heathrow with EK flight numbers go by do you???