A319s for Qlink?
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I will give it a rest as this is not doing me any good .
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uh huh josh, so you meant to say this won't happen again. Out of interest, who's eba has the cheapest jet pay at the moment, that's where it would go if it went to the turboprop operator/s. Anyway, good to see there is no undercutting going on.
And 32m, I believe your stance is admirable (apart from the fact qlink were charging for endo's for a while?), but if you still think your hard work will be rewarded there, then you are the eternal optimist.
And 32m, I believe your stance is admirable (apart from the fact qlink were charging for endo's for a while?), but if you still think your hard work will be rewarded there, then you are the eternal optimist.
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Casa won't issue a AOC for jet ops without "Jet experienced crew".... Alla
Southerrn and the 146's. I could see redundancies being threatened in the domestic operation with the carrot..... "But we will need 50 - 100 crew in Qlink for the 320/319......of course we can't take you all, so first in - "
I think people will jump rather than risk losing their jobs.
Just a thought
Southerrn and the 146's. I could see redundancies being threatened in the domestic operation with the carrot..... "But we will need 50 - 100 crew in Qlink for the 320/319......of course we can't take you all, so first in - "
I think people will jump rather than risk losing their jobs.
Just a thought
"Casa won't issue a AOC for jet ops without "Jet experienced crew"
Missing Link: are you 100% sure about that? Is there a reference or some other document that sets out what jet experience crew would need?
Missing Link: are you 100% sure about that? Is there a reference or some other document that sets out what jet experience crew would need?
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Rumour has it that the Southern Australian introduction of the BAe146 ran over budget to the order of 100%. Kendall's jet introduction was far more costly than expected with much longer training times than expected.
This doesn't mean that Eastern or Sunnie's pilots can't fly jets, but it does indicate that for a large fleet replacement and retraining program, the costs are very high. It's hard to understand why QF would expose itself to such costs.
Train a whole lot of people to fly the Dashes, to release the existing Dash pilots to get endorsed on the A319. Perhaps direct entry commands for both. Plus the possibility of contract pilots for some period, to massage the introduction. A whole lot of room just there for industrial unease, I'd think.
This doesn't mean that Eastern or Sunnie's pilots can't fly jets, but it does indicate that for a large fleet replacement and retraining program, the costs are very high. It's hard to understand why QF would expose itself to such costs.
Train a whole lot of people to fly the Dashes, to release the existing Dash pilots to get endorsed on the A319. Perhaps direct entry commands for both. Plus the possibility of contract pilots for some period, to massage the introduction. A whole lot of room just there for industrial unease, I'd think.
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This doesn't mean that Eastern or Sunnie's pilots can't fly jets, but it does indicate that for a large fleet replacement and retraining program, the costs are very high. It's hard to understand why QF would expose itself to such costs.
Pilots fall for the oldmeadow trap every time.
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lets take a punt,
Eastern and Sunstate will come together under one AOC
If the next aircraft for Qlink (eastern and sunstate) is an airbus type then you could expect J* pilots to be there for up to 12 months while current pilots are trained and gain experience.
Qantas will eventually bring all contracted flying in-house and depending on loads it will be given to Qantas domestic or Qlink.
Qantaslink changes its name....
Eastern and Sunstate will come together under one AOC
If the next aircraft for Qlink (eastern and sunstate) is an airbus type then you could expect J* pilots to be there for up to 12 months while current pilots are trained and gain experience.
Qantas will eventually bring all contracted flying in-house and depending on loads it will be given to Qantas domestic or Qlink.
Qantaslink changes its name....
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Wouldn't that be hilarious.
A JQ/QFlink MOU exchange on career opportunities.
Fast forward to 2021 where QFlink have replaced Jetstar on domestic sectors.
A. QFlink FO's joining post 2013 are complaining JQ pilots are taking their commands.
B. QFlink are making command opportunities available in West Wyalong only with a 3 year base freeze.
C. Due an absence of interest for the West Wyalong commands the Link guys & girls attempt to delete ghost numbers from the seniority list.
&
D. Link pilots attempt to withdraw from the MOU without consultation with other parties to the MOU.
A JQ/QFlink MOU exchange on career opportunities.
Fast forward to 2021 where QFlink have replaced Jetstar on domestic sectors.
A. QFlink FO's joining post 2013 are complaining JQ pilots are taking their commands.
B. QFlink are making command opportunities available in West Wyalong only with a 3 year base freeze.
C. Due an absence of interest for the West Wyalong commands the Link guys & girls attempt to delete ghost numbers from the seniority list.
&
D. Link pilots attempt to withdraw from the MOU without consultation with other parties to the MOU.
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Normally Claret I love your posts.
Suggesting QF have any clue as to what's going on surprises me to no end.
Too many Clarets?
BTW 146's were not 100% over.
For others, all dash pilots got through the course no worries and the jet experience can be F/O's.
Having flown different jets and Turbo-props I would suggest Turbo-props more complex failures and jets just take a bit more forward planning for the speed.
In the end great discussion but Jets for Qlink Bahahahahaha!
Suggesting QF have any clue as to what's going on surprises me to no end.
Too many Clarets?
BTW 146's were not 100% over.
For others, all dash pilots got through the course no worries and the jet experience can be F/O's.
Having flown different jets and Turbo-props I would suggest Turbo-props more complex failures and jets just take a bit more forward planning for the speed.
In the end great discussion but Jets for Qlink Bahahahahaha!
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Nice one
QLink have picked up Mr GC, he was the HOFO with a mob in FNQ. He is actually a pretty good bloke so it will be a good addition to Q.
Maybe they have turned a corner?
Maybe they have turned a corner?
Clarrie is right, maybe not 100% but a huge blowout, I believe the last NJS influence left around 18 months after start up with Southern.
The question I would ask is with Qantas not exactly setting the world on fire profit wise, would they really want to start another jet subsidiary, almost from scratch, when they already have jetstar, Network and Cobham, with Jetstar already operating the type.
I don't think it's about who is good enough to fly what, it's about the bean counter numbers.
Bug, you may be right about failures but its the inertia and GS that the T/Prop guys have trouble with, not saying they can't do it, it just takes longer, but if you're right I guess you'll find out soon enough.
The question I would ask is with Qantas not exactly setting the world on fire profit wise, would they really want to start another jet subsidiary, almost from scratch, when they already have jetstar, Network and Cobham, with Jetstar already operating the type.
I don't think it's about who is good enough to fly what, it's about the bean counter numbers.
Bug, you may be right about failures but its the inertia and GS that the T/Prop guys have trouble with, not saying they can't do it, it just takes longer, but if you're right I guess you'll find out soon enough.
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I would like to refer many readers to this website for further information. It is that from airbus
A319 aircraft: A319 range, specifications (dimensions, seating capacity, performance), cabin | Airbus*| Airbus, a leading aircraft manufacturer
It is a good aircraft.
Remember, with all the speculation and crap going on with "APA2" disruptions, I hope no further distractions occur at Qlink! It is a good part of the Qantas business and has great potential to reap money out of pockets of passengers. Just compare the cost of a flight from Brisbane to Moranbah, or Gladstone - compared to flying to Singapore!!!! It is called return on investment.
Qlink has that advantage at the moment!
JetPhotos.Net Photo » G-EZEG (CN: 2181) easyJet Airbus A319-111 by Jeffrey Schäfer
A319 aircraft: A319 range, specifications (dimensions, seating capacity, performance), cabin | Airbus*| Airbus, a leading aircraft manufacturer
It is a good aircraft.
Remember, with all the speculation and crap going on with "APA2" disruptions, I hope no further distractions occur at Qlink! It is a good part of the Qantas business and has great potential to reap money out of pockets of passengers. Just compare the cost of a flight from Brisbane to Moranbah, or Gladstone - compared to flying to Singapore!!!! It is called return on investment.
Qlink has that advantage at the moment!
JetPhotos.Net Photo » G-EZEG (CN: 2181) easyJet Airbus A319-111 by Jeffrey Schäfer
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What on earth is the Captain doing with his left hand in that photo?
I guess if you don't give pilots a control column they're forced to play with their own!
I guess if you don't give pilots a control column they're forced to play with their own!
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"Kendall's jet introduction was far more costly than expected with much longer training times than expected."
Does anybody remember who one of the managers of that laughable project was? I'll give you a hint: he currently "runs" QF.
Does anybody remember who one of the managers of that laughable project was? I'll give you a hint: he currently "runs" QF.
