A319s for Qlink?
Fine, replace "colleagues" with "those overpaid competitors".
My point is, if the rumours are true, that is exactly what ExCo will be thinking.
32MP, perhaps you could spell it out for me? I'm a little tired this evening - big day at work. I'm not sure why you seem to be criticising me for illustrating the attitude that managers in QANTAS have towards their staff. The divide and conquer strategy has worked well so far, pilots have shown their willingness to play their role in this strategy and it looks as if it's about to get another run.
My point is, if the rumours are true, that is exactly what ExCo will be thinking.
32MP, perhaps you could spell it out for me? I'm a little tired this evening - big day at work. I'm not sure why you seem to be criticising me for illustrating the attitude that managers in QANTAS have towards their staff. The divide and conquer strategy has worked well so far, pilots have shown their willingness to play their role in this strategy and it looks as if it's about to get another run.
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DA, I agree with you. This is not by choice whether I get to fly a jet at Qlink or not. I and many of the colleagues here refused to pay for endorsements with Jetstar and Virgin, yet we would be Captains there now! And yet we are stuck on 120-130 grand a year! We are the ones that stayed and stood up for our industry.
Intact, many of us got screwed by Qantas. Infact, about 15 of us should be working at Qantas mainline now! Incompitence fleet planning and shrinking of Qantas international has had us stay here on garbage conditions and we work just as hard, if not harder the our colleagues in mainline.
So if we get jets, don't be critical for your own selfish reasons. We have put up with a great deal of ****e with many changes over the last few years that has seen my hair receed somewhat.
You say we are undercutting you! Wake up! Your just lucky you weren't at Ansett where those guys lost their livelihoods! Get off your high horse!
Intact, many of us got screwed by Qantas. Infact, about 15 of us should be working at Qantas mainline now! Incompitence fleet planning and shrinking of Qantas international has had us stay here on garbage conditions and we work just as hard, if not harder the our colleagues in mainline.
So if we get jets, don't be critical for your own selfish reasons. We have put up with a great deal of ****e with many changes over the last few years that has seen my hair receed somewhat.
You say we are undercutting you! Wake up! Your just lucky you weren't at Ansett where those guys lost their livelihoods! Get off your high horse!
32MP, it doesn't affect me directly - I don't have a horse in this race.
As I stated, I'm merely trying to illustrate that in spite of what some may believe, management know what pilots want and what they will do to get it. That will influence the decision making process regarding the allocation of capital.
I'm not having a dig at you or those in a similar position. I, like many of us, have many friends in QANTASLINK. If I have offended your sensibilities, I apologise but I'm not naive enough to see the deployment of any jet to QANTASLINK as anything other than an attempt to further drive down pilot salaries and conditions in this country.
Anyway, enough from me. Goodnight to you.
As I stated, I'm merely trying to illustrate that in spite of what some may believe, management know what pilots want and what they will do to get it. That will influence the decision making process regarding the allocation of capital.
I'm not having a dig at you or those in a similar position. I, like many of us, have many friends in QANTASLINK. If I have offended your sensibilities, I apologise but I'm not naive enough to see the deployment of any jet to QANTASLINK as anything other than an attempt to further drive down pilot salaries and conditions in this country.
Anyway, enough from me. Goodnight to you.
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Just keep an eye on seek or the Cobham-National Jet website after all there the Qantaslink Jet operator. Almost sure they will advertise for more drivers when a new QLINK Jet type enters the fleet . Qantas and Cobham have a healthy relationship and its a lean machine and a good money maker and set up for QF has been for 21 years now. Dust of those resumes rather than fight over seniority lists.
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you are embarrassing everyone at qlink.
your arrogance is breathtaking!
as they say... 'give it a bone!'
please...
you are embarrassing everyone at qlink.
your arrogance is breathtaking!
as they say... 'give it a bone!'
please...
Why would saying I stood up for our industry is such?
Why would one not want to work hard and be rewarded as such for that hard work! And why would one think that by paying their way to the top would bring a sense of achievement?
I don't bring any undue disrespect to QantasLink. I do get insulted though when I am told I am undercutting someone else and affecting their career!
What ever happened to being rewarded for showing results! More like, I have money and I can pay for this job! I deserve to fly a jet!
Scumbag, you are just that!
I hope Qlink get jets to provide these fellow collegues with the ability to pay off their homes quicker and provide a lifestyle some have worked so hard for! That is all.
If it isn't so, well it is out of our control! We get on and move on!
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Just to clarify: Qantaslink already has jets. They would be operated by Cobham "the Qantaslink jet operator" (according to Kumar). Yes, I know he's gone.
I remember all the hassles EAA/SA had getting the Space Shuttle (sorry, Q400) on the AOC. IMO, I can't see it happening, although it would be nice. Yes, I know they have some JQ people there in (mis)management.
However, it makes more sense in these QF penny-pinching days to have Cobham do the ground work for a new (to Qantaslink) jet type. They have the experience and runs on the board as the "Qantaslink jet operator".
Good luck to the boys at Eastern and Sunnies though. I hope something comes through for you, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Just remember, the carrot has been dangled at you for almost 20 years now.
It's a bit wrinkled and smelly........
I remember all the hassles EAA/SA had getting the Space Shuttle (sorry, Q400) on the AOC. IMO, I can't see it happening, although it would be nice. Yes, I know they have some JQ people there in (mis)management.
However, it makes more sense in these QF penny-pinching days to have Cobham do the ground work for a new (to Qantaslink) jet type. They have the experience and runs on the board as the "Qantaslink jet operator".
Good luck to the boys at Eastern and Sunnies though. I hope something comes through for you, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Just remember, the carrot has been dangled at you for almost 20 years now.
It's a bit wrinkled and smelly........
Maybe that should read " qantaslink have a wholly owned subsidiary that operąte jets " namely Network, and also a contractor that operate jets, namely Cobham.
Just playing the devils advocate here but the general attitude from Qlink pilots ( Eastern, Sunstate ) seems to be that they have done the hard yards and have some sort of right to operate jets. Did you all get told at your interview that you would be flying a jet in X years or did they interview you for a Dash 8 position, just saying.......
Just playing the devils advocate here but the general attitude from Qlink pilots ( Eastern, Sunstate ) seems to be that they have done the hard yards and have some sort of right to operate jets. Did you all get told at your interview that you would be flying a jet in X years or did they interview you for a Dash 8 position, just saying.......
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Does anyone know where Sandilands got this info from to start this RUMOUR? Why would a source within Qantas who is privy to this information tell a journalist of all people 
Why would they give it to SSA when they have Network? or even Jetstar who have airbus's.
Sounds like the latest Qlink management spin to keep its pilots? First they told Qlink pilots the new 717's in BNE were destined for SSA, now they've upped it to a A319.
32MP, wasn't there even a rumour going around the BNE crew room that Qantas was going to buy Cobham in the near future so that would be an avenue to a jet?
Why would they give it to SSA when they have Network? or even Jetstar who have airbus's.
Sounds like the latest Qlink management spin to keep its pilots? First they told Qlink pilots the new 717's in BNE were destined for SSA, now they've upped it to a A319.
32MP, wasn't there even a rumour going around the BNE crew room that Qantas was going to buy Cobham in the near future so that would be an avenue to a jet?
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Radius I sense you may be AIPA affiliated , using big words , thinking we will feel intimidated and pull our heads in so you can walk over the top of the group which I may add is probable bigger than mainline by now . That tactic is getting a bit old . Time to try something new.
Toruk Macto, a read of your many short posts causes me to reach two conclusions:
1. Your anger and bitterness obscures your ability to reason, and,
2. You are ill informed and need to do more research to get the facts.
1. Your anger and bitterness obscures your ability to reason, and,
2. You are ill informed and need to do more research to get the facts.
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GB , guess you would suggest I ask someone in AIPA to inform me how it really happened ! If only the world would confirm to the AIPA mantra then we all could be saved . Yes I'm angry , the attitude is pissing me off . I will give it a rest as this is not doing me any good .
Back in my box but still watching !
Back in my box but still watching !