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Old 16th Sep 2012, 17:40
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Rex Importing Yank Pilots

Regional Express will be conducting interviews and simulator assessments at Flight Safety’s Houston training centre on the 15.10.12 – 20.10.12 inclusive.

Applicants must be able to work in Australia. Regional Express may provide assistance to suitable persons.

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Next will be India
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Old 16th Sep 2012, 22:44
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Didnt know Aus had a Pilot shortage...
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Old 16th Sep 2012, 23:14
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Just short of Pilots who want to work for REX i guess...
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No one will turn up, they didn't write the dates in yank format.
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 00:10
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at least they are bringing immigrants in Australia using the correct channels!!
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 03:02
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The bottom line, is that REX can employ whomever they want. In fact 6 American former SAAB captains are due to land on the doorstep this week. Somewhat fewer in number to those originally planned!

Rumor has it the Chief Pilot no less will be personally supervising their training. Whether these pilots work out or not remains to be seen. Based on the min requirements (less SAAB command experience), I personally feel that all the trouble and expense REX have gone through, may have been better saved by recruiting locally. Unless of course you factor in the real incentive of employing people such as 457 holders and Cadets. Captive workforce!

Which of course, is what this is all about.
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 03:19
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Personally supervising or micro managing their training ?
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 03:22
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Once they work out how far the money doesn't go in Sydney, Barry and his boys get rid of LAFA in Oct and they're subjected to the "joy" of flying in Australia as well as our need to reinvent the aviation wheel, they'll be off.
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 03:46
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I'm glad you are happy to see pilots coming from a country that wouldn't let us go work in theirs...not that you would want to.
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 04:49
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Must be able to swim!

Oh.....sorry, thats Pel Air, nothing to do with Rex at all!
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 05:29
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The bottom line, is that REX can employ whomever they want.
Ah, no, in fact they can't. Rex would first need to be able to prove to the appropriate immigration department that no Australians were available to do this job, something I'm surprised to hear exists. Once that is done they are free to sponsor the individuals under appropriate visas. Frankly I'm surprised this one is sliding past the relevant pilot union(s), so it must simply go to prove there truly is a pilot shortage in Australia.
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Bringing pilots in from overseas?
Wasn't the "whiz-bang" new cadet scheme meant to fix this problem?
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 11:46
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Squawk', broad brush I know, but what I meant is that REX can employ legally whomever they please, But of coarse you realise this.

The issue of 457 visas for pilots shows just how ignorant and perhaps maliable the revevant authorities are when it comes to disadvantageing local pilots, based on the spin from business!

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Old 18th Sep 2012, 00:28
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But of coarse you realise this.
You had me until this comment.

Employing foreign workers is not as easy as some may imagine. I have personal experience with this. As I said in my comments above, I'm rather surprised that the relevant union(s) have not had something to say about this. It is not at all difficult to prove that there ARE indeed suitable candidates available, and visas will not be granted. Don't believe me, ask Gina Rinehart! Unless of course the situation is that suitable pilots aren't available ...

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Old 18th Sep 2012, 01:01
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No need for angst' Squawk! Easy or not REX have jumped through the hoops (as flawed as they are), and unfortunately they are not alone.

Back in '07/'08 REX management, aided by a still politically influential board member, garnered substantial government support WRT employing foriegn pilots. The result at the time was modest (5 South Africans), but in many respects the die had been cast. As far as the union effectively opposing this practice, I think you fail to realise just how difficult this may be. That's not to say it isn't worth a shot, but lobbying aside, any sort of industrial campaign would more than likely backfire, given the number of appendages in certain pockets.

Personally, I think it may blow up in REX's face anyway. They'll pull out all stops in the inevitable efforts to save face, but the fact remains they have neither the will nor the whereforall to effectively manage their crewing issues into the future.

The most we can do at this stage is sit back, and enjoy the show. and remember Squawk', we're all on the same team!
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The most we can do at this stage is sit back, and enjoy the show. and remember Squawk', we're all on the same team!
Correct, hence why I was a little taken back at your sarcastic comment that I quoted above. This no longer affects me one iota, nevertheless I would personally support my colleagues, but sans sarcasm thank you.

It would seem you missed my comment where I stated I have personal experience with this. It is NOT as easy as you make it out to be, and it can be blocked if the correct processes are followed.
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Have you had a your Skywest interview yet Krusty?
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Old 18th Sep 2012, 03:41
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Has the bigger picture occurred to you guys yet- that there may in fact not be enough suitable candidates?

Just because someone has an ATPL, or a CPL with subjects passed, and 1200hrs doesn't automatically make them attractive to an airline.

I hear it from management pilot mates in every airline bar QF, and only because QF are not hiring, "Chuck we have run out of A candidates and are mining the B candidates looking for suitable pilots - and not finding many". In one airline I know they suspect pretty strongly that those pilots with say 2000hrs who are not already in an airline are not 'for a reason'.

Another common complaint is 'the % of FOs who are ready for command or who have real command potential, compared to the % who THINK they have, is minuscule'.

Don't shoot the messenger boys but the above are universal sentiments. Companies don't go down the 457 visa route JUST to fck people over...it's expensive and aggravating. But if airlines have to do so to keep the aircraft flying they will...and leave the unsuitable candidates on the sidelines.

There may indeed be no 'pilot' shortage but there appears to be a real shortage of pilots with high (personal) standards and experience commensurate with age.
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Has the bigger picture occurred to you guys yet- that there may in fact not be enough suitable candidates?
Don't you mean:
Has the bigger picture occurred to you guys yet- that there may in fact not be enough suitable candidates at the pay and conditions on offer?
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Old 18th Sep 2012, 04:17
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with high (personal) standards and experience commensurate with age
In an era when people change companies and even careers well into life (economy wide, not just aviation) is "commensurate with age" becoming unsustainable? If suitable and capable pilots with real command potential are getting scarce is the decreasing pool of people willing to join the industry at the heart of the problem? Not just 19 year olds, but folks in their forties?

Could it be that the entire industry will have to come to grips with a new career model for pilots?

Just askin' ... I certainly don't have any answers.
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