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Old 6th Sep 2012, 00:28
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Frankfurt Gone!
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There are TWO BIG benefits in the deal.

1. As expected EK gets it's hands on the cash in the Qantas Frequent Flyer Program, allowing passengers to redeem their points on the EK network.

2. Allows Qantas pilots the opportunity to experience Dubai, such that in the event Joyce totally screws International. Pilots can swing by and hand deliver an application on a Dubai lay over.
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What strikes me as curious was the fact that emerged at the end of the Emirates statement that the agreement was signed only 30 minutes before the press conference.
Joyce is under the pump. The Shareholder AGM is only 2 months away.
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 00:34
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Originally Posted by Mstr Caution
2. Allows Qantas pilots the opportunity to experience Dubai, such that in the event Joyce totally screws International. Pilots can swing by and hand deliver an application on a Dubai lay over.
It's sad, that was my first thought...
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Under the pump...

I wonder what this idiot gave away at the last minute to get the document signed.
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 00:36
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There was nothing about how many more aircraft and jobs will go.

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Old 6th Sep 2012, 00:38
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If it was the right time to cut the partnership with his cousin Willie and Emirates are not picking up any of the LHR slots, why not take the slots back from BA?
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 00:39
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.....the Pacific is coming for EK
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 00:42
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Tim Clark on airline alliances at 35:15

AJ shouldn't get too much credit for the deal. As Richard Quest infers, AJ's dreaming of some sort of Utopian airline future.

Tim Clarks the dude with the vision as to how the new world alliances will develop.
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 00:45
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More 400's gone. JQ to take up most Asian flying. Token mainline services to Sin and Hkg. BKK ops to JQ later this year. QF premium to Bkk is now on an EK 777.

Adl and Per international flying gone.

Tasman services revamped. EK will again win there.

More to come out but due to EK's focus on brand value, they did not want negative headlines re job losses announced today and then associated with them.

If EK didn't do the deal, it really didn't matter to them. The village idiot was the most desperate to do the deal. Cost him a fortune though.
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 00:50
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Lubricant

Joyce supplied the KY to get the deal over the line.On sale at Coles apparently
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 00:51
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A win for SQ too, now they're going to be the only ones flying the A380 from SYD/MEL-SIN.

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Old 6th Sep 2012, 00:52
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S/O job losses

With the Europe services going to a "longer sector" first format. I'd assume that LHR would be operated by a 2 man crew. What will the effect be on S/O numbers?
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 01:04
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There are lots of potential job losses but not mentioned today for publicity reasons.

Wait for the Asian route restructure.
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 01:06
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I'm not sure Emirates would want to code share with Jetstar. Could this maybe, hopefully, mean QF actually increases Asian services? Am I dreamin'?.
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 01:06
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IF there are any redundancies, anyone who thinks it will be done on pure seniority is kidding themselves.

It will be interesting after the dust settles, perhaps an increase in QF flights to Asia????

And what of jitconnict? With code shareing on the Tasman, surely this frees up the 737s to come back to mainline
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 01:18
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“Emirates is the ideal partner for Qantas,” Mr Joyce said. “It has a wonderful brand, a modern fleet, an uncompromising approach to quality and it flies to the A-list of international destinations.
So.........after moaning like a whiny little 4 foot tall bitch about the un-fair advantage Emirates has, subsidised fuel blah, blah, blah now the sun shines out their arse?

Has this man any integrity left? Did he have any in the first place? I feel sorry for any Qantas employee that has to be led by this fool..........
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 01:19
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Not from Sydney or Melbourne

Once again QF looking after the other half of the country who do not live in Sydney or Melbourne.
I guess that leaves Cayhay or SQ to pick up the trash.
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 01:21
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The Flying Kangaroo also canceled orders for 35 Boeing jets as high fuel costs and industrial action hammered its bottom line.
*AJ hates union as he kept blaming the union especially th ALAEA.he will be punishing the engineers more.
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 01:26
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A380 won't go to Manila for maintenance,it wii be in Dubai,qantas will set up maintenance there with cheap labour and get rid of engineering staff in Sydney.
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