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It is a common rating, lets see if CASA sees it that way!!
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5 day transition 777 to 787. Plenty of people who have already done it. A relative of mine in the states already has completed it.
Singapore it is people. Already set in stone.
Singapore it is people. Already set in stone.
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Stamp all you like. I'll eat my hat (I have eaten it plenty of other times) if anyone in Australia flies a 787 after 5 days of differences from the 777.
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All interesting stuff. I want to fly the thing. Should I be getting my name on the seniority list ASAP or do I sit on my hands and wait to see if a separate off-shored group get it? What's the guess on the crew compliment for the proposed 'ethnic' routes (Athens/Rome) they will be introducing? Cruise FO's?
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All interesting stuff. I want to fly the thing. Should I be getting my name on the seniority list ASAP or do I sit on my hands and wait to see if a separate off-shored group get it? What's the guess on the crew compliment for the proposed 'ethnic' routes (Athens/Rome) they will be introducing? Cruise FO's?
And what remuneration are you expecting or would you think is acceptable for you to take up this position?
As an expat Aussie, current 777 TRI, with a CASA Licence that says 777/787, unless JQ offered a package significantly better than what their 330 SIN offer was, I wouldn't consider it. But then, what would I know, I'm not ex Ansett so probably can't really fly anyway!
FWIW though I do personally believe seniority benefits the employers over the employees as it gives a captive workforce. If the experience isn't 'in house' then there should be an option to employ outside of seniority (and I spent nearly 10 years in the RHS!).
FWIW though I do personally believe seniority benefits the employers over the employees as it gives a captive workforce. If the experience isn't 'in house' then there should be an option to employ outside of seniority (and I spent nearly 10 years in the RHS!).
Stamp all you like. I'll eat my hat (I have eaten it plenty of other times) if anyone in Australia flies a 787 after 5 days of differences from the 777.
CAO 40.1.0 Appendix IB Part 1
30.
B777/787
BOEING 777-200 SERIES
BOEING 777-300 SERIES
BOEING 787-8 SERIES
No wonder Qantas canned the 787 orders.
They saw that it has 777/787 on the type rating and ran like the wind.
Can't have those twipple sevens invading the fleet by stealth
They saw that it has 777/787 on the type rating and ran like the wind.
Can't have those twipple sevens invading the fleet by stealth
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Boeing 787: A Pilots Perspective
If you still remain a sceptic Buzzy, I will pm you the first hand account I have sent to me. Not going to publish it as there are some teething issues and things some pilots actually don't like about the type as yet. I am sure as it matures these things will iron out.
Then again, nobody BASED is Australia will fly it (not in the QF JQ group anyway).
If you still remain a sceptic Buzzy, I will pm you the first hand account I have sent to me. Not going to publish it as there are some teething issues and things some pilots actually don't like about the type as yet. I am sure as it matures these things will iron out.
Then again, nobody BASED is Australia will fly it (not in the QF JQ group anyway).
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Don't know about that Buzzamundi, very senior JQ pilots (read ex AN) have been told they are to expect training to start soon. And they are Australian based. Dems the facts!
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What you get told in JQ usually differs from what you actually get.
Then again some riveting developments in the last 24 hours which will prove to be game changing. Singapore may not be the great bastion it once was.
Then again some riveting developments in the last 24 hours which will prove to be game changing. Singapore may not be the great bastion it once was.
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Stamp all you like. I'll eat my hat (I have eaten it plenty of other
times)
All B777 pilots in Oz either have B777/B787 on their licence or can write to CASA (send $25 and a stamped, self addressed envelope..) and have it put on their licence without further training.
CASA will not doubt require that there be a certain ratio of pilots on the B787 with relevant type experience (B777) as was the case when Vaustralia started up. Remember about half of the B777 SFOs have previous jet commands-some have even been made training pilots and simulator instructors in the Virgin Group.
Here the question needs to be asked: Given that the SFOs on the B777 at VAI have had their career paths truncated by group date of joining with the VAA (domestic) pilots and that the later group are now seeking to put all VAI pilots at the bottom of the VAA list, what would tempt B777 SFO to look at B787 commands at J*? The Scoot offer certainly wasn't enough. My guess is that a few Captains would be interested too.
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I am not against AN pilots, we TN blokes enjoyed their company around the joint, I just did not imagine there were so many of them, they seem to pop up all over the place. When I did my "obliquity" time OS you ran into them everywhere, they appear to breed like flies, and still they pop up everywhere, in QF,JQ and any airline you care to name OS. They appear to have amazing resilience. There must be few companies that have not be told how to do it the Ansett way, good for them.
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The 787's will not be crewed by jq or qf. QF will be crewing the 787 using drastically reduced pay levels the likes of which we have not yet seen in oz. The global economy is about to unravel and qf, like many high cost western carriers will be struggling to survive.