Qantas August 23rd announcements
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Originally Posted by blowngasket
Maybe It's time the Unions of Qantas chipped in and hired the likes of Kordamentha to do a forensic investigation into what Qantas management trot out all the time.
Ï wonder what, if anything, Kordamentha's "Interrogate" programme would reveal if let loose on Qantas' books????
Ï wonder what, if anything, Kordamentha's "Interrogate" programme would reveal if let loose on Qantas' books????
If you want to start somewhere start making all the consultants accountable for delivery of their schemes. No returns = no payment. The amount QF have spent over the last decade on Seabury, Bain, Boston etc is staggering, and if they had delivered those stratiegies and projects QF would be more profitable than Comm Bank.
I'm not anti consultant per se, but they must be held accountable. They charge some pretty big fees to trot in those geniuses, problem is being smart isn't the same as being effective.
That's a lesson business needs to learn over and over again.
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As Qantas has split mainline into two and from all accounts the QSA only applies to the international division, what is to stop domestic from flying internationally bypassing the QSA?
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Capt Dart.
There is already evidence of mismanagement
After the APA fiasco John Borghetti stated that the executives were so consumed with the private equity bid that no one was managing the business.
Nothing has changed since.
Alan Joyce has been jet setting around talking to Malaysian Airlines, air Asia X, Emirates and anyone willing to listen.
Meantime he's also distracted whilst Chairing ICAO & setting up Jetstar Enterprises thru Asia.
Qantas needs a new CEO and fast.
There is already evidence of mismanagement
After the APA fiasco John Borghetti stated that the executives were so consumed with the private equity bid that no one was managing the business.
Nothing has changed since.
Alan Joyce has been jet setting around talking to Malaysian Airlines, air Asia X, Emirates and anyone willing to listen.
Meantime he's also distracted whilst Chairing ICAO & setting up Jetstar Enterprises thru Asia.
Qantas needs a new CEO and fast.
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The head start that Qantas had as Australia's own airline was invaluable, yet that advantage has been squandered and the reputation of the brand trashed by incompetence.
I think the former held greater sentiment with most Aussies, however that was allowed to wither and die a little while ago.
We need a patriotic airline back if we wish to grab the Aussie market.
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Nothing will change until the Chairman and CEO go, because whilst they are still there the status quo or cost cutting are the only options they will see or consider. There is not ONE example of expansion beyond Jetstar and they refuse to recognise that cancer is cancer.
What is needed is vision and discipline, and nothing I have heard or seen in the last 2 CEO's shows anything that comes even close to resembling that.
What is needed is vision and discipline, and nothing I have heard or seen in the last 2 CEO's shows anything that comes even close to resembling that.
Joyce on the 7:30 Report
God I think I'm gunna puke.. 
Joyce please explain how the strong AUD is a bad thing for QF?????????
What a load of bollocks that the media never call him on...
Joyce please explain how the strong AUD is a bad thing for QF?????????
What a load of bollocks that the media never call him on...
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What is that old saying........'you have to spend money to make money'. Spending endless amounts of money on marketing and the lounges.......the onboard product is what matters.
I too am puzzled about the 787 decision. Yes it is a bit number on a balance sheet in the coming years, but it will save so much of that fuel bill over its lifetime........so what do they do, keep the older aircraft which will continue to be burning that expensive fuel.
Anyone commented on the '2 $100 staff travel vouchers'........does that make it sound more impressive?
The roadshows are next week - ask the hard questions during those and report back for those who can't attend.
I too am puzzled about the 787 decision. Yes it is a bit number on a balance sheet in the coming years, but it will save so much of that fuel bill over its lifetime........so what do they do, keep the older aircraft which will continue to be burning that expensive fuel.
Anyone commented on the '2 $100 staff travel vouchers'........does that make it sound more impressive?
The roadshows are next week - ask the hard questions during those and report back for those who can't attend.
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Joyce is under The Pump
The smugness has gone but the bulldust persists.This is a man out of options.
He and those masquerading as management are finally being exposed in the mainstream media for what they are :incompetent.
They need to be held accountable for these continued stuff ups
He and those masquerading as management are finally being exposed in the mainstream media for what they are :incompetent.
They need to be held accountable for these continued stuff ups
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Joyce please explain how the strong AUD is a bad thing for QF?????????
The statement ignores the many benefits which outweigh the disadvantage. A real moron's argument, but having seen some of AJ's outpourings, I fear he is a moron.
Qantas management: You're the reason I fly...with another carrier.
Hawaiian, because they are cheaper than JQ for 2A2C.
Neighbours are regulars to DPS, they are able to fly J class and refuse to fly JQ now, they have tried their 'business class' but would prefer to fly Garuda.
Management listen to customers and return to OOL but I'd like to know what customers have they asked? I have never been asked as a FF.
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Nothing will change until the Chairman and CEO go, because whilst they are still there the status quo or cost cutting are the only options they will see or consider.
96% support from investors at the Shareholder meeting last October.
Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.
Must be getting close
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THE BIGGEST LOSER
What a performance !
This clown just gets worse with time. I thought it wasn't possible -but the display tonight was downright APPALLING.
The strong $A ..........what tha??????? I thought buying new kit in $USD and paying for fuel in $USD is a non-issue.
But no -lets use Darth's- Chicken Little strategy and deny, lie, spin and moan about stuff that doesn't exist.
Hats Off to you Leigh Sales........2 nights in a row. Last night you hit the Opposition Leader for a six and tonight AJ looked liked some 12 year old private school boy trying to explain the theory of relativity.
"I TINK ITS A TUFF MARKET"
off!
The game is up you chump.
Its time to leave the house.
YOU'RE FIRED !
This clown just gets worse with time. I thought it wasn't possible -but the display tonight was downright APPALLING.
The strong $A ..........what tha??????? I thought buying new kit in $USD and paying for fuel in $USD is a non-issue.
But no -lets use Darth's- Chicken Little strategy and deny, lie, spin and moan about stuff that doesn't exist.
Hats Off to you Leigh Sales........2 nights in a row. Last night you hit the Opposition Leader for a six and tonight AJ looked liked some 12 year old private school boy trying to explain the theory of relativity.
"I TINK ITS A TUFF MARKET"
off!The game is up you chump.
Its time to leave the house.
YOU'RE FIRED !
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Alan Joyce, welcome again to the program.
ALAN JOYCE, CEO, QANTAS: Thanks Leigh. It's good to be here with you.
LEIGH SALES: The question I'm sure passengers would like me to ask you is what does a substantial loss like this mean for them? Will it make any difference to people who fly Qantas?
ALAN JOYCE: No, it won't. I mean, we're still investing very much for the future in Qantas. We're spending $1.9 billion for new aircraft this year and next year. We've gotten the fleet down to the lowest age it's been in some time, 8.3 years of age. We're investing in new lounges, new entertainment system. So that investment is a very important part of the turnaround that we're planning for the international and the domestic business.
LEIGH SALES: A lot of people will remember the industrial action last year and the decision to shut down flights briefly. What's your internal research telling you about the impact that that's had on customer attitudes and loyalty?
ALAN JOYCE: Yeah, customer loyalty for the premium Qantas brand is as strong as it's ever been. We're seeing that our customer advocacy, which is people's impressions of Qantas when they fly, people's impressions of our product and our service, is at the highest levels it's ever been. So we're very confident that we're in a very good position in terms of customer loyalty, in terms of customer focus and in terms of where the brand is positioned.
ALAN JOYCE, CEO, QANTAS: Thanks Leigh. It's good to be here with you.
LEIGH SALES: The question I'm sure passengers would like me to ask you is what does a substantial loss like this mean for them? Will it make any difference to people who fly Qantas?
ALAN JOYCE: No, it won't. I mean, we're still investing very much for the future in Qantas. We're spending $1.9 billion for new aircraft this year and next year. We've gotten the fleet down to the lowest age it's been in some time, 8.3 years of age. We're investing in new lounges, new entertainment system. So that investment is a very important part of the turnaround that we're planning for the international and the domestic business.
LEIGH SALES: A lot of people will remember the industrial action last year and the decision to shut down flights briefly. What's your internal research telling you about the impact that that's had on customer attitudes and loyalty?
ALAN JOYCE: Yeah, customer loyalty for the premium Qantas brand is as strong as it's ever been. We're seeing that our customer advocacy, which is people's impressions of Qantas when they fly, people's impressions of our product and our service, is at the highest levels it's ever been. So we're very confident that we're in a very good position in terms of customer loyalty, in terms of customer focus and in terms of where the brand is positioned.
and he gets away with it. double video up soon.... for those who missed it...
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Qantas when they fly, people's impressions of our product and our service, is at the highest levels it's ever been. So we're very confident that we're in a very good position in terms of customer loyalty, in terms of customer focus and in terms of where the brand is positioned.
Rather than trying to use lies and spin.......why not use a strategy that customers want:
HONESTY AND TRUTH.
the highest levels it's ever been.
We're spending $1.9 billion for new aircraft this year and next year. We've gotten the fleet down to the lowest age it's been in some time, 8.3 years of age.
And
Which fleet is 8.3 years old
Thanks
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Can/will EK invest more money in Qantas? How will operating older generation fleet like the 400s and 767s help Qantas weather the rising cost of fuel? Even struggling Air India recognizes the fleet needs to be fuel efficient. What a complete idiot! 
Dark days I am afraid. I imagine applications to EK, QR and that other large UAE carrier will be on the rise...
Dark days I am afraid. I imagine applications to EK, QR and that other large UAE carrier will be on the rise...