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Old 14th Aug 2012, 10:32
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How about a 744 to HNL three times a week. even flying J* 330 is better then the clapped out 767, projected ife and two crt tv screens that are so washed out that your iphone is a better inflight experience.
Bring back the Jumbo Hawaii holiday.
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Old 14th Aug 2012, 11:02
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Sorry G1, your Jumbo Holiday to HNL is pie in the sky.
All the 744s are either
a) at their 'use by date', or perhaps that should be their 'best before' date. OR
b) fully committed elsewhere, i.e. the Newbie Nine, which are the newest three Rollers, OJS, OJT and OJU and the 6 -ERs OEE-OEJ.
Can't even cover Frankfurt with these 9 aircraft, the only ones to be left in about 18 months, once you provide for the routes SYD-LAX-JFK, BNE-LAX, SYD-SCL, SYD-JNB, SYD-DFW and vice versa, hence the mutterings about Europe is a basket case, etc. even with full loads. In fact, with only 9 744s, I don't think Santiago can be covered either. Expect a propaganda campaign soon along the lines of 'we are not making money on South America, will have to gift the route to Lan Chile, our Oneworld codeshare partner etc. etc.'
SYD-HNL would be an ideal route for an A380 though, except there is no spare capacity on that fleet either, now that deliveries have been 'deferred' until 2020 or whenever.
Some 787-9s to plug the gaps? Maybe. Go hard Simon. Make your case to the Leprechaun.

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Old 14th Aug 2012, 12:13
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Frankfurt to stay ??

Can't even cover Frankfurt with these 9 aircraft, the only ones to be left in about 18 months, once you provide for the routes SYD-LAX-JFK, BNE-LAX, SYD-SCL, SYD-JNB, SYD-DFW and vice versa, hence the mutterings about Europe is a basket case
FWIW ground staff in Frankfurt claim that QF operational contracts were renewed two weeks ago for the next two years.
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Can an A330 do BKK-FRA with an economic payload? In winter?
Are we thread drifting?

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Old 14th Aug 2012, 12:52
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Depends if it is a Qantas A330 or a Jetstar A330
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Old 14th Aug 2012, 14:13
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LAX AKL punching into the jetstream is an FTI of 13:00 hrs and SIN FRA is 12:45 hrs without the possibility of a 3 hour limp to safety if half the noise stops, so from how this non pilot sees it it is doable in an A332.

Please feel free to pluck the budgie here, as I am just working on raw data available to me.

best all

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Old 14th Aug 2012, 22:04
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EWL, don't. I often sit at OOL and imagine the ol girls sitting on the deck TN488/9 and wish they were still there, but life goes on. What a shame we are all in so much in a hurry that we really don't appreciate what we have. A fine aircraft at our disposal, a good wage, a good lifestyle, a stress break from family life, and doing what we all love doing so much. And all we can think is" sh$t, five sectors today" It is not until retirement that you realise what you had, and are grateful.
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Old 14th Aug 2012, 23:06
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TG, I dont think the average employee has changed that much, they still just want to do what they love, do it well and have some reasonable recognition (non monetary) and the rest then falls into place. The problem is the employees, companies and even the brand have been made commodities that are traded off for benefits. Current management represent the new era of executive rank behaviour. JB was not of the same ilk and he was cut adrift because he didn't fit in.

See there was a new rush of national icon blood as the Olympians were brought home today, but sadly I suspect it will soon be forgotten again as the game recommences.
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Old 14th Aug 2012, 23:19
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When I saw the QF roller equipped 744 roll in, I was wondering if in four years it will be a chartered Emirates 777
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Old 14th Aug 2012, 23:27
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Yes and interesting that they played via a PA system as the athletes left the aircraft the old kids choir, " I Still Call Australia Home" and not the new dirge.


'All I did was cry': emotional homecoming for Olympians
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 01:14
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Perhaps Ohallen, but have things really changed? Any TAA pilot will tell you the company motto was "go along with us and we will stick the bat up your A#se everytime". Sound familiar? They treated pilots fairly badly, they would say you not going to PNG, so you bought a house, then they sent you to PNG, then they said you are going to HBA, so you sold your house, then they said your staying in MEL. This is for real, I don't think this sort of thing goes on anymore, but it did nothing for marriages or relationships, but they could not give a ratz ar#e. But for all of that is sure beat selling shoes, or stuffing olives.
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 01:26
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QF listening to customers. What a joke. Thank you JB for being the true leader we should have had. Thank you for leading VB and it's push into the domestic business market which has made that fool at my work look at shelving (no pun) 100% crapstar to former affluent QF destinations. I'll bet JB is laughing his ass off at the bumbling fools in bull**** castle unrolling their poor decisions (faces red) by this reversal due to VB positive push into the business market!
JB keep up the good work.
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 01:35
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Wasn't JB running Qantas when they pulled out of OOL?
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 02:54
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No Uncle Geoff was "running" it
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 03:14
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During the "gifting routes" era!
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 04:12
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Isn't it time to offer JB a block of flats to come back, or is he going to make them suffer a bit longer?
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Isn't it time to offer JB a block of flats to come back, or is he going to make them suffer a bit longer?
After what they did to him and sent him on his way virtually saying there is no room for you in QANTAS, why would he want to come back, and I don't think QANTAS would have enough in the bank to bring him back, unless of course he is AJ's replacement.

Now there's a thought!!
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 10:23
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Prayer answered????
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Virgin Australia will offer hot meals, beverages and alcohol (after midday) to all passengers on its transcontinental Perth services from Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane from 26 September, when it adds a fifth A330-200 to its fleet

From:
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalking/2012/08/15/virgin-australia-to-feed-transcontinental-masses-for-free/
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 12:29
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I bet the QF crew are excited about the return. Long layovers in the surf, argh, they were the days.
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Old 15th Aug 2012, 22:23
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Well looking at the schedules put up prior looks like there is no aircraft overnighting, so no layovers.... It will be a good place to show the benefits of RNP-AR approaches though getting you down to an ILS similar DA in the crappy weather they get there in summer. I know virgin dont do them yet, not sure if Jetstar does.
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