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Old 18th Aug 2012, 22:17
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What a mess

Lets party - go fishing, play footy with the kids, take the boat out, bath the dog, relax on a Sunday arvo. Anything but worry, helplessly about the bloody awful mess this poor old country is in. I intend to do so, the suns out.

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Old 19th Aug 2012, 12:26
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I'd like to agree as well but I may find myself seeking refuge in the Ecuador embassy by the end of the week.
Could be worse. Imagine 20 years locked up at Mascot in the Leprechaun's office, or locked up in Jmac's office in Brisbane, or worse still - Locked in a basement with Joolia and Hairdresser Tim???
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Old 19th Aug 2012, 12:45
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Could be worse. Imagine 20 years locked up at Mascot in the Leprechaun's office, or locked up in Jmac's office in Brisbane, or worse still - Locked in a basement with Joolia and Hairdresser Tim???
Poor Tim, he is a braver man than me.

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Old 19th Aug 2012, 13:01
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Short back and crack

Poor Tim, he is a braver man than me.
I think he is quite happy with his choice in life. He 'hooked up' with a flame haired Welsh freak who speaks like she has had a stroke, sports a mans haircut (except for the color) and walks like a man who has elephantiitis of the nuts. Just the kinda man Hairdresser Tim is looking for??

P.S I wonder if the poor Hairdresser has to wax Joolia's back and perform a brazillian?
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Old 28th Sep 2012, 07:18
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Howes v Purvinas

Looks like the fight is heating up. From today's Fin Review, p40

"The defamation case brought by the not-very-faceless boss of the AWU, Paul Howes, against the aircraft engineers' union boss, Steve Purvinas, hit the Victorian Supreme Court yesterday, with Justice Beach taking all of 90 seconds to proceed with the case after the AWU's lawyers provided a 48 page diary of the wondrous ways they've attempted to serve Purvinas for three months (based on his instructions by phone) - at airport lounges, in his front porch, at his office etc. Justice Beach decided to give Purvinas the minimum 30 days to prepare his defence.

According to the statement of claim, it comes down to an email Purvinas sent to his members, in which he accused the AWU of being "nothing more than a group of company advocates in union shirts that Tony Abbot [sic] would be ashamed of ... The AWU are delivering to Qantas an on-tap group of strike breakers."

Purvinas' hatred of the AWU may explain his attendance at a recent event held by the neo-con Australian Taxpayers Alliance addressed by former 2UE shock jock Mike Smith, who was there to speak about Julia Gillard's days as a solicitor at Slater & Gordon and her involvement with former AWU official Bruce Wilson. and who acknowledged Purvinas in the front row."

Given the other union news of the day perhaps it would have been cheaper for the ALAEA to buy a "luxury mansion" and rent it out to favoured personages than this mess will probably end up costing.

Absolutely ridiculous, employers will be laughing all the way to the Chairman's Lounge, various lawyers will engage in a feeding frenzy and members funds will perhaps be spent on less than optimal tasks.
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Old 28th Sep 2012, 07:52
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Gloves off ?

"The defamation case brought by the not-very-faceless boss of the AWU, Paul Howes, against the aircraft engineers' union boss, Steve Purvinas, hit the Victorian Supreme Court yesterday, with Justice Beach taking all of 90 seconds to proceed with the case after the AWU's lawyers provided a 48 page diary of the wondrous ways they've attempted to serve Purvinas for three months (based on his instructions by phone) - at airport lounges, in his front porch, at his office etc.
Perhaps they tried to serve some of the papers by sending them airfreight with a certain carrier, but due to 'service difficulties', delays, AOG's etc it has taken months to get the papers through to Steve??

Don't worry Steve, you still have your integrity. As for Howes
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Old 28th Sep 2012, 09:51
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Been away for work but apparently I have a package waiting for me at home...... anyone want to guess how much he would be suing me for? I have no idea.
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Old 28th Sep 2012, 10:53
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Paul Howes is as weak as piss. Pathetic thing to do.

Keep your head up Steve.
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Old 28th Sep 2012, 11:34
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One who came through the politicians Pre School and one who actually gives a stuff about Unions - I'll donate to any collection in favour of Mr Purvinas.
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Old 28th Sep 2012, 11:36
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Keep up the good work Steve. Your members (plus many new ones) will support you.
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Old 28th Sep 2012, 11:49
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Just win....
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Old 28th Sep 2012, 12:50
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I used to be a Labor supporter - ignorant of what the organised union movement actually did apart from the workface involvement.

After recent events in the last few years which I began to take an interest in after Rudd got deposed, the Labor party I thought I held a sympathetic viewpoint with, worker rights an all, began to look somewhat murky.

Further revelations with the Gillard scandal and all, simple conclusion the Labor party is rotten to the core. It's rotten to the core because of the core. The core is these Unions whose reason for being, worker rights, has been hijacked for personal gain by a select few who have never worked in the real world. Living in a bubble off worker contributions.

Never again will I ever trust a career politician or career unionist or any outfit they may be a part of or provide a benefit to. On the public purse in pursuit of power and their own greedy gains. Only when you've been subject to a corporate working over would you consider organising yourself to form or seek to add direction to a union.

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ALP's faceless men must learn to tolerate dissent
which is what mr howes aka mr faceless man who has been "gravely injured in his feelings" has been subject to.

Paul Howes, secretary of the Australian Workers Union and author of Confessions of a Faceless Man.
pot
kettle
black

so sad.
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Old 28th Sep 2012, 13:34
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Maybe time to read "The Art Of War" again? Howes will throw AWU members money at this like there's no tomorrow and his aim is to nobble the ALAEA once and for all. His strategy is straight out of the Liberals "Idiots Guide On How To Destroy Unions". That is, take legal action against Steve and the ALAEA which forces Steve to finance an expensive legal defence and possibly pay for Howes legals if Howes wins. Howes will not only dip his hand into the AWU's slush fund finances for this, but no doubt have the financial backing of some ALP hacks that don't like the idea of the ALAEA not being servants to the ALP like most unions are these days.
A Union with no cash is as useful as tits on a bull......think smart Steve for all our sakes.
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Old 28th Sep 2012, 16:46
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Were all with you Steve!!!! You are model of integrity and passion who has the full backing of your members.

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Old 28th Sep 2012, 21:42
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Good luck, Steve. IMO Paul Howes and his ilk are a disgrace to the union movment and all it is supposed to stand for.
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Old 29th Sep 2012, 01:20
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I had to have a laugh at some twatter chatter regarding the AWU and Howes in particular.

Paul Howes

‏@howespaul @chriskkenny @markatextor @illywhacker_au @mumbletwits @timwilsoncomau difference between freedom of expression & defamation is quite stark
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‏@Strings2273 @howespaul @chriskkenny @markatextor @illywhacker_au @mumbletwits @timwilsoncomau all everyone wants is truth. Tell where AWU funds went

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@howespaul r u going to take up Michael Smith re his offer for an interview Paul?



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@howespaul What is the best venue in Boulder to address @AWUnion members? Need to reassure them dues r being spent wisely. #Kalbarri #auspol

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Old 29th Sep 2012, 01:55
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Originally Posted by gobbledock View Post
This is more than I can take.

On just one page we have seen mentioned Howes, Johnny Eyebrows, the Red Headed Clown, even the no longer faceless gimp Mark Arbib!
Combine that with video links and Tim's photoshop work (I do like your style mate) also showing the Carbon Queen, Albo, Martian Ferguson, Swanny and ex union supporters and now turncoats Bill Short-one and Greg Combat and I believe you have possibly one of the greatest collections of 'brown matter' assembled in one convenient location!

Please people, no more pictures of politicans, except for this one:



And yes, I would love to see a return of the Dockers..

Mate that is the funniest thing I've read on here for a while.

Plenty of press today about yesterday's FC injunction against "poaching".
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Old 30th Sep 2012, 02:17
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Old 30th Sep 2012, 21:50
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The HSU scandal is just a symptom. The Labor party these days is just a tool for corrupt unionists to begin a new career.

This article could just as easily have been written about Australian Labor:

Whatever happened to the Labour Party? - Comment - Voices - The Independent
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Old 1st Oct 2012, 07:21
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Originally Posted by sunfish
The HSU scandal is just a symptom. The Labor party these days is just a tool for corrupt unionists to begin a new career.
There are plenty of witnesses to it all. The key reason Thomson is being protected is not the publicly portrayed story that he is required to keep the Govt alive, but because if he goes down then he takes several others with him, including some potential ALP leadership candidates.

The Union movement does hate exceptionally well. Battles with management are one thing, generally they are fought out on relatively fair grounds. But woe betide anyone in the union movement who crosses someone else who later gains power. That is what started the whole HSU debacle in public when the unions and ALP have always been far better than the Liberals at the quick knife to turn over a leader (refer Howard-Peacock, Howard-Costello, post Howard leadership as three examples of where the Libs are fundamentally weaker than the ALP - along with campaigning capability).

There are certain ex senior officials of unions pouring stories in to the media. They got shafted out of their particular union(s) and now they are looking for payback. If there's ever a Royal Commission into the union movement nobody in their right mind would ever join a union in its current form again.

In this area SP gets credit. I can't say if he's squeaky clean or not, I simply have no knowledge of anything negative. But unlike certain other officials it was never a precondition of any meeting with him or the ALAEA that a woman/women had to be provided at a hotel room at a certain time prior to the meeting.

Anyone who believes the vast majority of unions are actually about representing their members' interests is kidding themselves. There are certainly some idealogues out there who are actually that way inclined, I'd say SP is probably one of those, but the majority are just out for themselves and their faction on the basis that the faction will look after its loyal soldiers. The HSU screwed it up because they were amateurs looking to feed a the trough like some of the big kids.
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