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the 787 was a great concept on cheap oil. The 380 is a great concept on expensive oil.
Take a look at history. hub busting and frequency both decline with $$$ oil.
The 380 will be better suited to the $300 plus oil we will be soon seeing.
Take a look at history. hub busting and frequency both decline with $$$ oil.
The 380 will be better suited to the $300 plus oil we will be soon seeing.
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One flight per day with 500+ pax with maybe one or two intermediate stops and a crushed check-in and waiting area at both end terminals
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with only about 40 extra pax than a 744
For equivalent configurations, the A380 has about 130 pax more than the 744.
744ER 317
A380 450
Now this is a premium config. But if we go with the 744 two class of just over 400, you will still have the same relativity of about 150+ additional pax on the A380.
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OQD is Manila as we type, getting a rub and tug to put in about 40 extra seats.
Over the next 12 months all dugongs will get it.
They remove the last zone in bizzo, move premo cattle into that zone and add a few seats.
Then add more cattle seats into the old premo zone. As well as removing a galley and lav from the main deck and adding a few seats in their place. I think the new config comes in just below 490 seats. Not 555 like airbus wanted but better that what it had.
Over the next 12 months all dugongs will get it.
They remove the last zone in bizzo, move premo cattle into that zone and add a few seats.
Then add more cattle seats into the old premo zone. As well as removing a galley and lav from the main deck and adding a few seats in their place. I think the new config comes in just below 490 seats. Not 555 like airbus wanted but better that what it had.
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Safety considerations
So all these changes that Joyce has commissioned, a lot of talk about business units, money, structure, money money money.
I see no mention of some more important aspects such as;
1) What considerations did the executives give to potential impacts on safety?
2) What aspects of safety or risks were identified during the restructure process?
3) Are QF following a change management process?
4) What changes in the safety system will now occur, and has planning for this been actioned?
5) Is the Regulator satisfied that all new senior positions are being undertaken by individuals who have adequate safety knowledge and experience?
You see the promotion of accountants, former financial consultants and the like does nothing to instill a measure of safety comfort in me.
And what about CASA? They of course have to approve these structural changes. Obviously they are most satisfied with this change within the QF AOC? One can only assume that the Regulator is most satisfied with the restructure, appointment of new key people and new organizational structure?
And what about Albo, is he happy?
I see no mention of some more important aspects such as;
1) What considerations did the executives give to potential impacts on safety?
2) What aspects of safety or risks were identified during the restructure process?
3) Are QF following a change management process?
4) What changes in the safety system will now occur, and has planning for this been actioned?
5) Is the Regulator satisfied that all new senior positions are being undertaken by individuals who have adequate safety knowledge and experience?
You see the promotion of accountants, former financial consultants and the like does nothing to instill a measure of safety comfort in me.
And what about CASA? They of course have to approve these structural changes. Obviously they are most satisfied with this change within the QF AOC? One can only assume that the Regulator is most satisfied with the restructure, appointment of new key people and new organizational structure?
And what about Albo, is he happy?
ExCo?
Where did this ridiculous ExCo thing come from? Seems to be popping up all over recently. If you ask me, it can stand for Executive Coterie.
Fits exactly.
coterie [ˈkəʊtərɪ]n
a small exclusive group of friends or people with common interests; clique
a small exclusive group of friends or people with common interests; clique
Nunc est bibendum
Letters are going out! Would you like to cash in your Long Service Leave?
Rather than have a 10 year master plan, I'm more convinced than ever that this mob just makes it up as they go along.
I detect a private equity bid. It will be timed to execute before the next election so that Julia Gillard, etc. are powerless to stop it. They tried it at $5.70 and they will try again below $1.50.
For Jamie Packer, it gets foreign punters to the Casinos he wants to build all over the country.
In fact the gambling could start on the aircraft when its wheels up.
For Jamie Packer, it gets foreign punters to the Casinos he wants to build all over the country.
In fact the gambling could start on the aircraft when its wheels up.
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I am with you Sunfish. QF International is on the market. Keep domestic, and then bring in JQ as the new International airline for this country. Plain as the nose on your face. Was always going to be as Dixon handed over to Joyce. One would hope they will pick more viable companies than the last two choices of Dixon, one has gone broke, the other struggling. Vale QF, you deserve better than this, this is not what all former staff and management who worked so hard to make you what you were. If only, if only, Borgetti had got the job, QF would be starting to hum by now, instead its only a matter of time before it joins TAA and Ansett into the dustbin. Beautiful airlines destroyed by bean counters and management. I could weep.
The 380 will be better suited to the $300 plus oil we will be soon seeing.
Keg. Cashing in LSL might not be a bad deal for people with large amounts, instead of getting assigned 14 days LSL every Bid Period, when you don't want it. At least you get something of value, instead of being sent on forced vacation one quarter of your life.
Sunfish. Packer would want an airline? Why? He doesn't know anything about running an airline.
Seriously, though, you'd reckon the scarring he got from the last foray would still not have healed yet. But these guys do have thick hides, it seems.
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My guess is along Sunfish's lines.
They have bled Longhaul dry and in any case are hopelessly out of their depth and run out of ideas/cash to do anything with it. This is an act of desperation.
Flog it and leave it for the sharks to do with it what they will.
Very doubleplusungood.
They have bled Longhaul dry and in any case are hopelessly out of their depth and run out of ideas/cash to do anything with it. This is an act of desperation.
Flog it and leave it for the sharks to do with it what they will.
Very doubleplusungood.
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What of the employees in the new structure / potential sale? Engineering (whats left), reportedly to follow Strambi to the domestic branch. What will private equity get for its cash?
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It will be most interesting, nay, telling, as to what occurs, by just observing where all the flight ops Management types scurry to, in order to save their own hide.
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Nunc est bibendum
It will be most interesting, nay, telling, as to what occurs, by just observing where all the flight ops Management types scurry to, in order to save their own hide.
Meanwhile, at the coal face, everything changes and nothing changes.
