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Old 15th Mar 2014, 07:26
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I started at JHAS back in 2007 not long after it opened shop. As one of the "workers on the so called coal face" I can say first handedly that the team of guys we had working on these aircraft were some of the best engineers in the country. Spending some 5 years in the heavy maintenance division, our work output and quality was superb with our turn times bettering our direct competition. It was most enjoyable turning up every day to see what new challenges were on for the day. But no matter how hard we worked on the floor it still wasn't good enough for the management, and the contracts just kept getting tighter and tighter.

Obviously there is no place for heavy maintenance in Australia no more. But thanks to incompetent management it just amplified what was a doomed business. The potential was great.
By October 2012 when I decided to pull up stumps the writing had been on the walls for a long while. The hangar was a quiet decolat place... The spirit had left

I feel for the remaining guys left holding the bag... RIP JHAS
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 22:26
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Romulus, are you thinking what I'm thinking? What chance of a turnaround?
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 22:46
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Rumor has it that some arm of TOLL has acquired or put in a bid on the hangars. VT to get the big hangar 145, and BaE hangar 91.
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Old 16th Mar 2014, 00:28
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What's happening to the work JHAS were doing in the hangars? Will there be an opportunity for the guys to simple change employer and stay in the same hangar?
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Old 16th Mar 2014, 02:44
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Originally Posted by Sunfish
Romulus, are you thinking what I'm thinking? What chance of a turnaround?
If the management at John Holland didn't hate me so much I'd buy the place in a heartbeat. But they have decided they would rather run the place into the ground than talk to me.

I may not be right in my approach but I'd be giving it a hell of a shake.
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Old 16th Mar 2014, 08:43
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RB according to the announcement it is still up for sale.

Think back 7 years when some smooth guy would walk the hangar floor and say G'day to everyone
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Old 16th Mar 2014, 10:22
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Originally Posted by CF6JETBLAST
RB according to the announcement it is still up for sale.

Think back 7 years when some smooth guy would walk the hangar floor and say G'day to everyone
When people won't even pick up the phone when they know you want to put a $100M plan in place the odds are anything I submit will be deemed "unacceptable".

And I wish that bugger was as good with Corporate as he seemed to be with people who actually do the work. It's an ongoing story, termination for any number of reasons following a period of time actually talking to the workforce. Senior mgt don't like being told certain things in a rather direct fashion so that smooth guy seems to have racked up more than a few "exit interviews"...

Wonder who it will be next?
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Old 17th Mar 2014, 08:52
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Senior mgt don't like being told certain things in a rather direct fashion.
Ain't that the truth, but you have to make your point at an exit interview. The ‘yes men’ management flunkies don’t want to hear, and are afraid of the truth so they have a tendency to bastardise a competent and honest guy who tells them how and like it is, and maybe he has to call a spade a shovel during the process. The flunkies suffer from the delusion that they will be believed by those above them just because of the so called managerial position that they hold (they have risen to the height of their incompetence), and because they themselves have said so. Real people generally move on to better things, without looking back over their shoulder, and leave those mindless and lacking in integrity d*c*y licking flunkies in their wake. Being marched off the premises normally has no effect on one’s known good reputation, when the truth inevitably comes out.

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Old 20th Mar 2014, 20:50
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When does JHAS cease operations?
01 June or 30 June 2014?
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Old 21st Mar 2014, 00:53
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Rumour around Melbourne last few days was that JHAS have given notice to their customers they'll cease all operations in 60 days. So, I'd say that puts it at about June 1.
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"Rumour" has it that 1 of the hangars has already been leased...The new occupants will be moving in "Before" June 1 !!
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Old 18th Apr 2014, 01:45
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What's the latest folks, the count down clock has well and truly commenced.......
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Old 25th Apr 2014, 07:20
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Hmmm....." Rumour" has it that the Goal-posts are to be moved.....Backwards.....For 1 of the Hangars....
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Old 27th Apr 2014, 06:07
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What do you mean?
VA can't afford the lease rates for hangar 145 and bays 4 + 5?
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Old 27th Apr 2014, 06:11
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According to an engineer - 3 weeks left: business is wound up and all gone
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Old 28th Apr 2014, 06:52
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quote:According to an engineer - 3 weeks left: business is wound up and all gone.

Hmm. Not the case if you care to look at JHG's asset base..There appears to be "NO" intention to sell. "Long term leases" !!.
It appears that all maintenance providing will be wound up before the end of the financial year....Move the goal posts for those who are still there (admin, quality etc etc).
With the Airports Development plans proceding as fast as they are 2 players need this spot..
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Business tycoon Paul Little plans new VIP jet base at Melbourne Airport
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Hopefully the plan involves saving as many jobs as possible, good luck guys

Melbourne VIP Terminal
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Old 2nd May 2014, 09:18
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Jhas is due to wind up at the end of May with the transition to the Little Group on the 1st of June.

Some JHAS jobs may be saved with the sale of the Components BU and the FTM BU but still no deals finalised, and none on offer with the Little Group. The only ones who have a hope with the Little Group are the facilities guys.

Virgin have rejected all applications from anyone at JHAS with the exception of a few that got interviews for AME positions. One was a 330 LAME.

In other news Virgin are taking their 330 A Checks to Singapore. First one scheduled on the 26th. We will have to wait and see how long it is, if ever, before they bring them back....

Where is the noise from our Brotherhood ?

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Old 2nd May 2014, 20:08
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Geez that is ****ty news.

Strange decision by VA to send them all the way across for A checks, guess at the end of the day they couldn't make any other solution work in the short term - especially if they have closed the books on the JHAS employees (and if JHAS are playing silly buggers regarding the facilities and tooling/GSE).

There are probably managers on both sides of the fence beating their chests and trying to come out on top - at the end of the day it's the poor guys on the hangar floor that get the pineapple.
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