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Old 11th May 2012, 06:54
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Sunfish - Senator Sterle was a truckie before becoming a TWU official, and there are a few others that worked up the ranks so to speak.

HSU has been dire for years. Kathy Jackson's ex has a lot to answer in my view....

In relation to your last question and as Fed Sec noted, in my view any good work by unions for the interest of members and industry is still 'good work' regardless of what is happening around them. Sure every time Dave Oliver in his new role as ACTu Sec is going to have to answer questions about this stuff and defend the cause, but that won't diminish some of the other good work that unions do.

Greater transparency in business, including union business can inly be a good thing.
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Old 11th May 2012, 12:09
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...but that won't diminish some of the other good work that unions do.
In an ideal world. In the unideal real world a lot of people are seeing the whole movement as one big rort, which is untrue.

Remember what happened to Catholic priests? Mention the two words and all most people say is 'child molester.' That's unfair, because most priests aren't child molesters, but that's what people think. Ask my cousin, he is a priest who no longer wears a dog collar in public because he's sick of the verbal abuse. And no, before anyone asks; he's not a child molester. He was a missionary, a tireless worker for the needy here and in many foreign countries, a great administrator and a damned good bloke, but all he hears in public if he's wearing 'uniform' are the words 'kid er.'

Mud sticks, and the mud Thomson and Co have dredged up for their own petty, puny and despicable goals has stuck to everyone in the union movement.

Every honest person who wears the Eureka flag and works tirelessly for their members is copping abuse thanks to these self serving pricks. Try getting people to part with their hard earned cash for a membership when all they see on the news is Thomson's credit receipts. Oh, that's right, he's innocent until proven guilty. Maybe his dog borrowed his credit card, forged his signature and had a big night on the town . No-one's buying it.

Whether through ignorance or inaction the ACTU has allowed this to happen, and they deserve a group pineappling for that. It happened on their watch.
I occasionally sit with these young Labor upstarts and they have no comprehension of what the ordinary person thinks. It is as if there is a fantasy world that has been created for them where they have been given a birthright to absolute power. It disgusts me.
Agreed. First to the wall, the little toerags. They saw a buck in the labour rights 'business' and snouted their way to the trough. Not one of the little bastards has ever worked a year of their lives. Not one of them has served customers, dug holes, driven vans or fixed stuff for a living, apart from the odd student job between lectures. There's nothing wrong with going to uni (I've done it, paid for it and was grateful for the opportunity) but it's not being a worker. It's not the same as doing a job effectively for twenty years and now hoping like hell you don't get punted because you're the wrong side of fifty, only got to junior because the family needed you to earn, and have trouble getting the hang of all this new computer stuff.

Then they have the nerve to claim they're 'for the workers.' Grow the up, the workers aren't stupid and don't buy a word of it.

The HSU has handed a whopping big advantage to the Liberal Party and the anti union brigade, and all for drinks and prostitutes. What a great achievement. What a great step forward for worker rights. What a bunch of heads.

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Old 12th May 2012, 03:08
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Yes, as usual, very well said Steve.

One thing I am curious about now, regardless of your and any other individuals personal political leanings I always understood the ALAEA was NOT aligned with any Political Party, is that true?
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Old 12th May 2012, 03:16
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We have a 20 person Executive and not one of us is a member of any political party. We don't donate to them and we refuse to be pushed around by them.

Come election day I will man a polling booth handing out how to vote leaflets for the people we think will serve LAMEs best in the upcoming period. Looks like next election day I will be heading to South Australia to help Nick.
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Old 12th May 2012, 03:31
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Thank you.

I was sure it was like that back in the Olde Days, glad it still is.

Also agree about Nick, about the ONLY Politician I have any time for.
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Old 12th May 2012, 20:39
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....and to cap it all, I just received the latest gossip from Canberra, that a certain Ministers wife and kids have just moved out of the family house after he got his PA pregnant. They moved in with her Mum.

Not that there isn't a womaniser among the Liberal leadership.

Is it something in the water in Canberra?

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Old 13th May 2012, 02:14
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And her Mum happens to be the G-G..............
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Old 16th May 2012, 23:46
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FWA???

Did anyone catch Kelty's speech last night. A plain straight talker is Kelty but still has the vision.

Originally Posted by ALAEA Fed Sec 2nd May
Just an update. There will be an ACTU meeting today to discuss this contentious issue. For Tech and Cabin Crew wondering what this is all about I will explain briefly.
I'm guessing the meeting a couple of weeks ago with the ACTU didn't resolve anything because the Fair Work Australia website is saying there is a hearing today?
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Old 17th May 2012, 01:32
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Today was a directions hearing. Some timelines were set by the Commissioner. Qantas of course being represented by Freehills had to stick their nose in and will be siding with the non aviation specific unions. They would prefer to deal with people who know nothing about our industry.
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Old 17th May 2012, 05:22
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I guess Qantas Management are happier dealing with people similar to themselves, that is ones that obviously know very little about Aviation.
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Old 17th May 2012, 05:50
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I guess Qantas Management are happier dealing with people similar to themselves, that is ones that obviously know very little about Aviation.
Why would QF Management deal with anyone else? One pack of know nothings dealing with another pack of know nothings. Anyone who thinks differently to them are cast aside as "not understanding" the importance of QANTAS's survival as they do.
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Old 17th May 2012, 06:22
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All qantas ame's out there should ask themselves two basic questions, why are management trying soooo hard to have this dealt with through the craft unions? And based on that, who is going to get a better deal? Think about it and lobby your local reps.
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Old 28th May 2012, 12:49
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I know we were talking politics earlier in this thread, just had a laugh at Senator Doug Cameron saying about Enterprise Migration Agreements that "you could drive a 737 Airbus through the policy".

Once upon a time he was a union secretary responsible for workers in the industry......
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Old 28th May 2012, 13:02
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I know we were talking politics earlier in this thread, just had a laugh at Senator Doug Cameron saying about Enterprise Migration Agreements that "you could drive a 737 Airbus through the policy".

Once upon a time he was a union secretary responsible for workers in the industry......
A few others come to mind. Greg Combet, Bob Hawke, etc etc. The union movement is usually a stepping stone into Canberra.
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Old 15th Jul 2012, 11:08
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Old 18th Jul 2012, 12:47
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? Where are all the unions / associations they all seem to have disappeared has anyone at Tulla or Avalon even seen them in the past weeks seems like they have just given up representing there members .
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