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Old 12th Nov 2012, 05:02
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Empire4 has a point but let's not give up the aviation career just yet. Lots of people young and old have gone overseas to carriers like Etihad, Qatar and Emirates etc and have actually enjoyed the opportunity to work there. Unless you want to be the last man standing then give the expat job a chance. I've worked overseas for over 20 years and love it. That's just me though so go and see it for yourself. Can always say "no".
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Old 12th Nov 2012, 05:16
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Angry

and yet we still get the planes out safely……

testament to the professionalism of the guys these assclowns are screwing over!

On another matter…..
Can I add a option 4 to the last question in the survey?

4) Modern new technology aircraft require LOTS more maintenance…..it's just not SCHEDULED maintenance.

Isn't non-routine maintenance the more expensive type to pay a contractor for…..?

Ah, what would I know…..
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Old 12th Nov 2012, 06:40
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The big question is do you run out now with the money or stay in false hope for the future and find out they just wind it up without a payout. Ask the Ansett guys how that feels.
The future is positive. There is no future!
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Old 12th Nov 2012, 08:37
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A future will only exist if Nappystain and his sidekick Harris go to the railways. If you want to lose your job, help make their model work.
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Old 12th Nov 2012, 08:45
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Don't forget, AJ has a 5 year plan to turn the company around.

1260 something engineering jobs extinguished this year.

4 years to go!!!!
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Old 12th Nov 2012, 09:35
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Don't forget, AJ has a 5 year plan to turn the company around.

1260 something engineering jobs extinguished this year.

4 years to go!!!!
Engineers gone in 2!
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Old 13th Nov 2012, 01:30
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Empire4 has a point but let's not give up the aviation career just yet. Lots of people young and old have gone overseas to carriers like Etihad, Qatar and Emirates etc and have actually enjoyed the opportunity to work there. Unless you want to be the last man standing then give the expat job a chance. I've worked overseas for over 20 years and love it. That's just me though so go and see it for yourself. Can always say "no".
Thats great for you if your a driver - the money for Eng's in the ME is ****e!
Because they can still get Malays and Indians to do it cheap.
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Old 13th Nov 2012, 02:25
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Being able to move with the goal posts is a valuable life skill in this modern era....Hard to swallow at first but makes for a better mental position as forward movement takes place.
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Old 13th Nov 2012, 02:45
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With everything that's going on in SYD they have the hide to hold an open day on 25th of November to quote

"Experience the future of the domestic mainline fleet by taking a tour of the new A330 and a Boeing 737-800 featuring the Boeing Sky Interior. There'll also be presentations and displays from different parts of Qantas Domestic and the Qantas Group, as well as friends of Qantas."
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Old 13th Nov 2012, 05:06
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Qantas has friends?
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Empire4 has a point but let's not give up the aviation career just yet. Lots of people young and old have gone overseas to carriers like Etihad, Qatar and Emirates etc and have actually enjoyed the opportunity to work there. Unless you want to be the last man standing then give the expat job a chance. I've worked overseas for over 20 years and love it. That's just me though so go and see it for yourself. Can always say "no".

Thats great for you if your a driver - the money for Eng's in the ME is
****e!


Because they can still get Malays and Indians to do it cheap. 12th Nov
2012 21:35
I had a look into Emirates (I went to one of there road shows). You have to keep in mind though, you dont pay tax in Dubai, EK pay for accomodation and school/uni for your chhildren. So at the end of the day i worked out that EK pay a LAME with my licences the equilvalent of earning 150k in australia before tax. Which is still less than what i earn currently, but if i do lose my job at QF i wouldnt mind giving it a shot over in Dubai.

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Old 13th Nov 2012, 16:17
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Qantas has friends?
Yep, sure do.. many I believe, it just doesn't feel like it lately... too many other things going on... in associated, and non associated industries regarding job security as well.. a lot of Aussie jobs have been outsourced this year alone.. its been the trend for the last few years..

Sometimes it is good to go back and remind ourselves the good stuff many of you do on here everyday.. and do it well..

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Old 13th Nov 2012, 18:01
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Ben has done a comparison of Emirates and Qantas on the Emirates first half results. I reckon it says a lot about where Qantas is going to now.

Instead of flying less, it flew more, instead of charging less for its product, in race-to-the-bottom fare wars, it charged more, instead of laying off staff, it employed more, instead of pruning its network, it added new routes, and instead of cutting back on new airliners, it added more to its all wide-body fleet.
It sounds starkly different to its new approvals pending junior business partner, Qantas We expect you to fly Emirates unless you live in Sydney or Melbourne doesn’t it?
The full story is here and is a day old.

Emirates flies more, charges more, doubles half year profit | Plane Talking

What gets me is that there isn't a word about this in the newspapers.
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Old 14th Nov 2012, 02:42
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20 guys on overtime in SAM last night. Makes you wonder how busy the boys and girls are going to be when over 200 (30%) leave on redundancies next month.
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Old 14th Nov 2012, 02:51
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Maybe they should read the notice.

This is a hatchet job. I was called by a manager and told about this prior to the announcement. The plan is to cut 30% of the staff and see if the place still runs. If it does, they will cut more Engineers. They will continue to slash Line numbers whilst aircraft are departing on time. I’ve spoken to many members today and what has become apparent is that some members will just make any system work. As a result quality is also starting to decline but for management this seems to be a secondary issue so long as nobody finds out.
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Old 14th Nov 2012, 03:50
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Unfortunately we are surrounded by those who look after themselves not for the greater good.

The standard OT types will try and save the day, well at least that is what they are saying they are doing it for.
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Old 14th Nov 2012, 04:43
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Agree Syd Eng, They probably think by helping the company out they will avoid the tap on the shoulder, misguided fools the lot of them, they don't seem to realise the company don't care how much you have helped them, if your on the hit list you're gone.
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Old 14th Nov 2012, 04:50
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Gotta agree with both Syd eng and buggerme. Those left in the nest will eventually be pushed out. I've seen too many times when those thinking they are saving their own hides, get done over. Loyalty is like the shifting sands in the desert. You can do good by one manager, only to be done over by the next.

Also, we see the individuals that just have to be in the vicinity of a manager whenever the manager pays the section a visit, even though they have nothing to do with what's going on. You tend to slip over the dribble of these individuals. Hence the situation we're in now.
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Old 14th Nov 2012, 05:14
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How stupid are these guys in Sydney base!
You have the likes of nasty swine and Clifford hired wholey and solely
To screw you over and they are doing OT to help them do it.

HAVE YOU GOT ROCKS IN YOUR HEADS.?
All you are doing is making it easier for them to shaft you and they would be sitting back in an office somewhere laughing at you guys making it easier for them to do so

You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Look around your crews now 'cause
Soon 3 out of every 10 won't be there.
If this cull works nasty swine will only cull more, and that gentlemen is a fact.

Look what he did at NZ.
This is what he was hired to do here.

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Old 14th Nov 2012, 05:38
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I can't really blame the guys for doing as much OT as they can. If it is Qantas management's agenda to run the place down, they might as well milk the cow for all it's worth. The fact that the place is still functioning is probably a thorn in managements side.
Make hay while the sun shines because it looks like it's getting very dark for Qantas.
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