BIG Announcement coming from QF?
Melbourne heavy has been in a progressive shut down for years, gradually cutting out departments that have provided highly reliable components to qantas for years, as they closed them reliability went south. The death of a thousand cuts.......
Good luck fellow gingers.....
Good luck fellow gingers.....
I recall 2 things that possible add weight to this rumor about MEL heavy.
1) Saw an email with B738 PCT attendees location "AVV".
2) Docking investment diverted from MEL to AVV for 738's about 6 months ago.
It's not a recent decision, they've been setting their cards up for a while now.
1) Saw an email with B738 PCT attendees location "AVV".
2) Docking investment diverted from MEL to AVV for 738's about 6 months ago.
It's not a recent decision, they've been setting their cards up for a while now.
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Just got the word on the BA , Engine Shop in Mascot to reopen , HM in Syd to reopen along with Component shops , All TWU to be emplyed direct by QF . AND WAIT FOR IT ! JQ to close and all flying to reurn to QF.
What do you mean , pigs will fly ? don't they? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
What do you mean , pigs will fly ? don't they? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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But....but..........but.........they cant close Melbourne Heavy...........
We have just had the consultants through and they have told us all our "rotating machinery" is horribly unsafe and needs to be replaced at great cost.........
They wouldnt spend all that money and then close the place.........
Would they?
We have just had the consultants through and they have told us all our "rotating machinery" is horribly unsafe and needs to be replaced at great cost.........
They wouldnt spend all that money and then close the place.........
Would they?
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Qantas grounds spoof Twitter account
Twitter users criticised Qantas for the move, with one wag sarcastically thanking the airline because he was "genuinely unable to differentiate between your company and a joke"
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Qantas Avalon Job cuts are on the Way Job cuts a matter for bosses: Baillieu Thanks Ted big Help.
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Woollcott,
That is exactly why they would employ consultants, to tell them what they have already decided to do and to give them the reasons to do it.
From consultants side, work out their fee and then divide by average wage and that is how many people they need to get rid of to justify the report.
Sad but true.
That is exactly why they would employ consultants, to tell them what they have already decided to do and to give them the reasons to do it.
From consultants side, work out their fee and then divide by average wage and that is how many people they need to get rid of to justify the report.
Sad but true.
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"Job cuts a matter for bosses", and "concentrating on a strong budget" Brilliant Ted. One would think employment is kind of high on the list of things required for a strong economy. Here Teddy, come over here and roll over for nice belly scratch.... 
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i remember in 2005 qantas spending a few million fixing H245,overhauling docks ,painting,fixing all the long term faults.at the time a few of the senior LAME,s made the point this must be the end for us,and what do you know.All that docking has now been cut out and i think there washing aircraft in there know.
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Reading yesterdays aust fin review, Billy Shorten, imbicile, has fallen for
Joyces old chestnut, likening new aircraft to new cars, that don't need
as much servicing as the the old ones.
The gay leprachaun also reacons its like we don't need to check the car
oil every sa'turd'ay.
This guy is full of it. Turds like this call motor clubs to change a flat tyre.
Joyces old chestnut, likening new aircraft to new cars, that don't need
as much servicing as the the old ones.
The gay leprachaun also reacons its like we don't need to check the car
oil every sa'turd'ay.
This guy is full of it. Turds like this call motor clubs to change a flat tyre.
You heard it here first.
Within Two years, "Globalisation", "Offshoring" and "Outsourcing" of critical business technologies will be things of the past.
It's not just me saying this, it is at least one group of economists whose opinion I respect.
Globalization and Offshoring will be victims of political pressure and 20%+++ unemployment rates in Europe and America.
Outsourcing will be a vicitm of sovereign risk and commercial risk. To put that another way, how would you like to have your engine maintenance outsourced to Greece right now? What happens when your supplier suddenly can't get finance? What happens when your currency suddenly implodes?
To put that in an Australian context, if the Federal Government cannot by hook or by crook get some equalisation of gain and pain between the States then there is going to be what is euphemistically called "Social Unrest'.
The Federal resources rent tax (the mining tax) had better recycle dollars to NSW, SA, VIC and TAS or there is going to be trouble when unemployment starts rising - thanks to businesses closing because of the strong Australian dollar - caused by the mining boom. You can already hear this sentiment on talk radio.
The other example of course is the Murray Darling Basin. South Australians jokingly talked about marching upstream and blowing up the dams. At least it was only talk, but if they get a **** sandwich in the next drought it might become more serious.
If China comes off the boil the mining boom will tank very quickly. Same when interest rates start to rise (happening already). There will then be a great deal of people who see themselves as victims of international forces that the Australian Government refused to even try to control. The first outcome of that will be protectionism. The second outcome will be a drastically lower Australian dollar - but the employment opportunities that can produce will be long in coming.
And Qantas? It will have neatly closed all its Australian maintenance and overhaul facilities and squandered its cash on foreign ventures just in time to take the full force of the downturn right in its face.
Within Two years, "Globalisation", "Offshoring" and "Outsourcing" of critical business technologies will be things of the past.
It's not just me saying this, it is at least one group of economists whose opinion I respect.
Globalization and Offshoring will be victims of political pressure and 20%+++ unemployment rates in Europe and America.
Outsourcing will be a vicitm of sovereign risk and commercial risk. To put that another way, how would you like to have your engine maintenance outsourced to Greece right now? What happens when your supplier suddenly can't get finance? What happens when your currency suddenly implodes?
To put that in an Australian context, if the Federal Government cannot by hook or by crook get some equalisation of gain and pain between the States then there is going to be what is euphemistically called "Social Unrest'.
The Federal resources rent tax (the mining tax) had better recycle dollars to NSW, SA, VIC and TAS or there is going to be trouble when unemployment starts rising - thanks to businesses closing because of the strong Australian dollar - caused by the mining boom. You can already hear this sentiment on talk radio.
The other example of course is the Murray Darling Basin. South Australians jokingly talked about marching upstream and blowing up the dams. At least it was only talk, but if they get a **** sandwich in the next drought it might become more serious.
If China comes off the boil the mining boom will tank very quickly. Same when interest rates start to rise (happening already). There will then be a great deal of people who see themselves as victims of international forces that the Australian Government refused to even try to control. The first outcome of that will be protectionism. The second outcome will be a drastically lower Australian dollar - but the employment opportunities that can produce will be long in coming.
And Qantas? It will have neatly closed all its Australian maintenance and overhaul facilities and squandered its cash on foreign ventures just in time to take the full force of the downturn right in its face.
This line about
reminded me.
Over a game of golf in early January, myself and another former QF employee had a game with 2 other guys. Conversation went something like:
(Me to New Guy) Where do you work?
(NG new guy) I work for QANTAS,
(Me) Yeah, how's that going, not a happy place I hear,
(NG) No it's a great place to work run by great people,
(Me) I heard that it wasn't so great (admit here that I was trying to get oput of him if he was management a newer employee or an old timer etc)
(NG) the propblem at QANTAS is the old work practices and those things have to change like the engineers, you don't need their old practices, aircraft are just like new cars, plug them into computers and you immediately know where the problem is and fix them.
(2nd former employee) what about all the items that computers don't show?
(NG) there's not many of them these days when you have new aircraft.
Found that this guy was management and had been there for 3 years only.
Perhaps, the management training is all about 'educating' the new staff so they can all roll out
likening new aircraft to new cars, that don't need
as much servicing as the the old ones
as much servicing as the the old ones
Over a game of golf in early January, myself and another former QF employee had a game with 2 other guys. Conversation went something like:
(Me to New Guy) Where do you work?
(NG new guy) I work for QANTAS,
(Me) Yeah, how's that going, not a happy place I hear,
(NG) No it's a great place to work run by great people,
(Me) I heard that it wasn't so great (admit here that I was trying to get oput of him if he was management a newer employee or an old timer etc)
(NG) the propblem at QANTAS is the old work practices and those things have to change like the engineers, you don't need their old practices, aircraft are just like new cars, plug them into computers and you immediately know where the problem is and fix them.
(2nd former employee) what about all the items that computers don't show?
(NG) there's not many of them these days when you have new aircraft.
Found that this guy was management and had been there for 3 years only.
Perhaps, the management training is all about 'educating' the new staff so they can all roll out
Joyces old chestnut
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new aircraft
dont think computors picked up the "tiny cracks in the wing rib support feet on the A380".....that was good old/young LAME's doing there job.The Qantas founders must be rolling in their graves
I have a mate that startted a new career as a warranty manager for Volvo and Range Rover - now some of the most electronically sophisticated vehicles on the planet.
Guess what? He has a very steady workload just in software upgrades to fix problems alone. Mechanical failures are expensive too around $2000 dealer wholesale for a fuel injection pump (petrol not diesel!)
Guess what? He has a very steady workload just in software upgrades to fix problems alone. Mechanical failures are expensive too around $2000 dealer wholesale for a fuel injection pump (petrol not diesel!)
A Sydney cabin crew "manager" has in an unprecedented move, organised sandwiches for the crew attending EP recurrent training for tomorrow.
Very kind of self servicing, ideologically driven and incompetent fools to offer the condemned a last meal.
Very kind of self servicing, ideologically driven and incompetent fools to offer the condemned a last meal.